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Old 08-14-2008, 05:04 PM
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Default Twins claim Washburn to block Sox.

SI.com's Jon Heyman says the Twins won the Washburn claim and the Tigers won the Ibanez claim. Interesting on both fronts, but no deals were struck so both players will remain with the Mariners. Heyman says that while the Twins' Washburn claim had the flavor of a blocking move, the two teams did have trade discussions.


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Old 08-14-2008, 05:15 PM
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Smart even off the field. Oh, how I hate those Twins.
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:19 PM
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I hate them too. More than any other team.
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:20 PM
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Smart even off the field. Oh, how I hate those Twins.
That's considered smart? Sounds like common sense to me.

Sox should have dealt for Byrd, anyway.
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:22 PM
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Let them have him. They won't win **** anyways.
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:40 PM
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Let them have him. They won't win **** anyways.
They probably won't even trade for him, this was just to block a trade to the Sox.
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:45 PM
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If they were really smart, they'd have claimed him, traded for him, then traded him to us for a bag of M&M's. He's a home run waiting to happen, and in the Cell, that's a nightmare.
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:46 PM
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Let them have him. They won't win **** anyways.
You don't know that.
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Old 08-14-2008, 06:09 PM
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That's considered smart? Sounds like common sense to me.

Sox should have dealt for Byrd, anyway.
So are we dumb for letting the Red Sox get richer?

Am I missing something? Why wouldn't a team like the Sox claim every single player possible? Is there a limit?
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Old 08-14-2008, 06:18 PM
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So are we dumb for letting the Red Sox get richer?

Am I missing something? Why wouldn't a team like the Sox claim every single player possible? Is there a limit?
Byrd had cleared waivers already on Saturday when Contreras went down. They would have had no reason to claim him before that. They were free to trade for him, but at that point, Shapiro could trade with anyone. Unless he was getting a top prospect, he isn't going to help his division rivals win another World Series.

And I think it was a dumb move by the Twins. I wish the Mariners would have said "Congratulations, he's yours" and tossed his entire contract to the Twins. Then what would they do, trade Nathan or Morneau in the offseason to make room?
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Old 08-14-2008, 06:23 PM
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And I think it was a dumb move by the Twins. I wish the Mariners would have said "Congratulations, he's yours" and tossed his entire contract to the Twins. Then what would they do, trade Nathan or Morneau in the offseason to make room?
He'd probably become an ace for them.
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Old 08-14-2008, 07:03 PM
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So are we dumb for letting the Red Sox get richer?

Am I missing something? Why wouldn't a team like the Sox claim every single player possible? Is there a limit?
If a team has a player claimed on waivers they can elect to let the player go to the team that claimed him in exchange for $20,000 and the other team would have to take the player and his salary. So there is some risk, especially for guys with crazy contracts.
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Old 08-14-2008, 07:21 PM
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In a way the twins and tigers blocking Ibanez and washburn may hurt the twins. Now both those players will play the twinks in 2 more series with a potential to stick it up their arses.
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Old 08-14-2008, 08:12 PM
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That's considered smart? Sounds like common sense to me.

Sox should have dealt for Byrd, anyway.
I don't believe the Sox could have dealt for Byrd. I also don't see any reason to have blocked him in going to the Red Sox because the pitching situation was different when Byrd cleared waivers. Maybe you're right, though. And maybe the Sox should have picked up Livan Hernandez and Freddy Garcia and held on to Estaban Loaiza.

As for the Twins blocking Washburn from a possible deal to the Sox, it points to the Twins not believing what Kenny Williams said about Washburn in the media (along the same lines as what Williams said about the possibility of not signing Beckham). Fans take such comments far too seriously.
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Old 08-14-2008, 08:46 PM
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Byrd had cleared waivers already on Saturday when Contreras went down. They would have had no reason to claim him before that. They were free to trade for him, but at that point, Shapiro could trade with anyone. Unless he was getting a top prospect, he isn't going to help his division rivals win another World Series.
I know the Sox would have had to claim Byrd before Contreras got hurt and I still don't understand how that would have hurt the Sox. It is probably true Clev would have pulled him back not to help a Division opponent but one never knows unless ones tries and if they do pull him back its a no loss situation. And No One will will be able to convince me that every pitcher currently on the Sox staff is better for a playoff drive than Byrd would be.
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