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Old 08-14-2008, 09:59 AM
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Yes Danks has agreed.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:04 AM
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Yes Danks has agreed.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:13 AM
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Above average in the sense he's had one playoff team in his entire tenure?

I don't disagree he's done a decent job and 2005 was great...but there's been just as much bad as good.
You act like this team was perranial playoff contendor for years before Kenny got here. We had a good team in 2001, some good teams in the early 90s and 80s and a whole lot of crap for a long time before that.

KW has put on playoff calliber teams every year he's been here, with the possible exception of last year. When the team failed last year, he turned it around in one offseason. As someone pointed out, in 2006 he improved a World Series team and we fell just short, mostly b/c Detroit and Cleveland were really good. In other years we missed the playoffs due to injuries and/or guys having historially bad years....not exactly Kenny's fault.
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:23 AM
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Ummm, any other info?
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:10 PM
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This isn't the NBA, only 4 teams in the American League make the post-season every year. The Sox have been competitive for pretty much KW's entire tenure. He's assembled a play-off quality team in 2003 that was torpedoed by his lame duck manager, in 2004 that went down to 2 critical injuries, and in 2006 the Sox had the best record of any team not in the post-season.



I think that's an above average resume; I didn't say great or excellent, just better than average.

Sox record since 2001, KW's 1st season at the helm:

2001: 83-79, 2002: 81-81, 2003: 86-77, 2004: 83-79, 2005: 99-63, 2006: 90-72, 2007: 72-90, 2008: 67-52... Total: 661-593 (.527)
For many of his first years, the AL Central was also known as the comedy central. People forget that we played crap competion alot and still came up empty. While you're right that it's easy in baseball to miss the postseason, Kenny has had any easeir path than most more often than not.

Our lack of tradable farm assets is his fault. That's a big negative.

He's made a number of dubious trades in his tenure as well. You can't just look at the good and says he's a good GM. He's an average GM. He hits big, but he misses just as big and just as often.
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:12 PM
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He's made a number of dubious trades in his tenure as well. You can't just look at the good and says he's a good GM. He's an average GM. He hits big, but he misses just as big and just as often.
Yeah, but many of his big misses were earlier in his tenure. He's gotten better as he's gone.

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Old 08-14-2008, 12:54 PM
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Yeah, but many of his big misses were earlier in his tenure. He's gotten better as he's gone.

Oh, and:

The picture didn't show. But I'm sure it's not so nice.

He made the worst trade of his career last offseason.
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:55 PM
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The picture didn't show. But I'm sure it's not so nice.

He made the worst trade of his career last offseason.
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:01 PM
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The picture didn't show. But I'm sure it's not so nice.

He made the worst trade of his career last offseason.
Are you referring to the Quentin deal because the Swisher deal because wasn't that bad?

Swisher is still young and contributing to a first place team. Ryan Sweeney is not a viable corner OF...he has good batting average...that's it. Against lefties his OPS is less than .600 this year which makes Brian Anderson look like Babe Ruth.

DLS had Tommy John Surgery this year....may put a damper on the HOF induction. Gio Gonzalez is 1-1 and is only in the big leagues because the A's have traded away all their good starters.

Give ma a break.
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:05 PM
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Is that's where his last $.50 went? He bought Tommy Thompson's ring on ebay?
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:45 PM
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It's official. Edit: nearly official.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news...=.jsp&c_id=cws
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:46 PM
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Is that's where his last $.50 went? He bought Tommy Thompson's ring on ebay?
Damn, has anyone ever told you how funny you are?

Find a new joke, this one's old.
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:46 PM
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Are you referring to the Quentin deal because the Swisher deal because wasn't that bad?

Swisher is still young and contributing to a first place team. Ryan Sweeney is not a viable corner OF...he has good batting average...that's it. Against lefties his OPS is less than .600 this year which makes Brian Anderson look like Babe Ruth.

DLS had Tommy John Surgery this year....may put a damper on the HOF induction. Gio Gonzalez is 1-1 and is only in the big leagues because the A's have traded away all their good starters.

Give ma a break.

Swisher looks like nothing more than a thinner Giambi, and his track record mirrors that. He's a marketable franchise presence, but has few strengths other than OBP and declining power at 27. You can't use the youth excuse with Swisher, then declare that Sweeney can't hit. Sweeney's had a tenth of the ABs, and he's a few years younger than Swisher. I'm not saying that he'll become a good player, but the youth line is lame. I would've kept Gonzalez out of the three players given to Oakland, but it's a moot point.
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It's official. Edit: nearly official.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news...=.jsp&c_id=cws
Very good news.
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