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Old 07-25-2008, 09:55 PM
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Default MVP's who weren't All-Stars

Anyone have any idea who would/could complete this list? I believe Cecil Fieler was back in the early 90's, but that's just a thought. I remember watching TWIB and having them bring up that he was the first MVP to not make the ASG in a long time.

I know some may think this is a Baseball Discussions topic, but when it pertains to OUR Right fielder, it's right at home here in the Clubhouse.



M-V-P! M-V-P!

Anyone think this is going to be like '83 where Fisk and Baines "split" the Sox MVP vote? Carlos and JD could do that again.

EDIT: I just looked up the MVP vote from 83, and it wasn't as close as I thought. Hell, Eddie Murray came in second, then Fisk. I thought Baines finished better than 10 this year.

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Old 07-25-2008, 09:56 PM
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Did Chipper Jones?

Edit: I looked it up when he won the MVP in 1999 he was not an all star.
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:56 PM
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Anyone have any idea who would/could complete this list? I believe Cecil Fieler was back in the early 90's, but that's just a thought. I remember watching TWIB and having them bring up that he was the first MVP to not make the ASG in a long time.

I know some may think this is a Baseball Discussions topic, but when it pertains to OUR Right fielder, it's right at home here in the Clubhouse.



M-V-P! M-V-P!

Anyone think this is going to be like '83 where Fisk and Baines "split" the Sox MVP vote? Carlos and JD could do that again.

What about MVPs who were not even going to be on the roster at opening day if it weren't for an injury?
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:59 PM
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What about MVPs who were not even going to be on the roster at opening day if it weren't for an injury?
Was almost Pujols in 2001. Bonds had one hell of a year that year, and Pujols ended up winning ROY unanimously for the first time in 50 years or something. Carlos certainly could do that. He's damn clutch, as JD is also. I'm just partial to Dye, that's all. Not that I mind either of them winning!
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:01 PM
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I think Josh Hamilton probably wins MVP.
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:05 PM
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Did Chipper Jones?
Yes, he won in 99 without getting an ASG bid. Ed Sprague made it, though.

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I think Josh Hamilton probably wins MVP.
Think so? He's got TONS of RBI's in a hitters park on a loaded offense, but his team might finish in 3rd. Does that hurt him? I know he's the feel-good story, but he might not even be the MVP on his own team (Kinsler?).
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:16 PM
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Anyone have any idea who would/could complete this list?
No idea about an exhaustive list, but would it include Rollins last year and Morneau in '06?
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:54 PM
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I can hardly imagine Hamilton not getting it if he gets like 150 RBIs..emotionally satisfying vote by those writers.
JD could really make an arguement right now. Homers like tonite just fill in the drama quotient. Carlos and JD have had the highlight hits this year and you could not pick between them. They willed the team to victory in that 9th inning in spectacular fashion. Split mvps right now.
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:09 PM
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I can hardly imagine Hamilton not getting it if he gets like 150 RBIs..emotionally satisfying vote by those writers.
JD could really make an arguement right now. Homers like tonite just fill in the drama quotient. Carlos and JD have had the highlight hits this year and you could not pick between them. They willed the team to victory in that 9th inning in spectacular fashion. Split mvps right now.
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Yes, he won in 99 without getting an ASG bid. Ed Sprague made it, though.



Think so? He's got TONS of RBI's in a hitters park on a loaded offense, but his team might finish in 3rd. Does that hurt him? I know he's the feel-good story, but he might not even be the MVP on his own team (Kinsler?).
Kinsler is having a great year, as is Milton Bradley (I'd argue a slightly better season than Hamilton; higher batting average, on base percentage, and slugging; just hasn't been as healthy). But with the possibility of 150+ RBIs plus his story, I'd bet on Hamilton to win it as of right now. As for who I'd vote for and think is most deserving, I don't really know, no one seems to really stand out in the AL.
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:15 PM
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Hamilton will get consideration but while he has a lot of RBI, how many of those have been clutch, game winners? TCQ and Dye are doing it in a pennnant race.

K-Rod will get some consideration too, but outside of his saves, his other peripherals aren't even the best of closers this year. The MVP award is the Most Valuable Player. It isn't the Player of the Year. If a guy puts up monster stats for a team that goes no where, how valuable was he? Does the difference between 80 wins and 65 wins matter? No. If it's a Player of the Year award, then call it that, and then you could make a case for Hamilton.
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Old 07-27-2008, 10:54 PM
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Frank Thomas didn't make the All Star team in 2000.

Oh wait...
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:22 PM
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Frank Thomas didn't make the All Star team in 2000.

Oh wait...
I don't think I'll ever get over the injustice. Though the porn-stache makes it a little more humorous, he still robbed Frank.
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:00 AM
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I want to say Kirk Gibson?
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:04 AM
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Although undeserving, in fact not even the best MVP candidate on his team Josh Hamilton already has that award locked up, because he did drugs once before, not sure if you knew, but yeah he did drugs, then like came back and like overcame his addiction. Not sure if you guys knew that. True story. Believe it or not. Came back. Drugs. Back. Drugs. Tattoos.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:48 AM
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The first modern MVP (chosen by Baseball Writers of America) , Phildeelphia A's pitcher wasn't an All-Star, of course, this was before there was an All-Star Game!
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