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Old 06-17-2008, 10:38 AM
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He has a Minor League career fielding percentage of .991 at First.
He is not a bad fielding first baseman. On what are you basing your opinion?
I saw him a couple of years ago in Altoona. He is a horrible first baseman. No range, hands made out of stone, and no ability to dig bad throws out of the dirt.
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:49 AM
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Bring Richar up and dump Uribe or Ozuna. Play BA in Center
Forget Eldred - he's an organizational minor leaguer.
He hasn't had any serious playing time in the bigs since '05, so you don't know that to be 100% true. It IS possible that players improve while in the minors and can turn out to be serviceable. Eldred has improved on all of his stats from last year.

Now he may be brought up and might suck, batting .090 with 2 hrs and 20 K's, but I think with his offensive numbers in AAA, he at least deserves a look if Konerko goes on the DL. Worst case scenario, he sucks, he goes back to AAA, and it's confirmed that he's a AAAA player or an organizational minor leaguer. It's not like he's going to be stealing anyone's playing time: Konerko is probably (should) head for the DL, Quentin has hand issues, and we can always do defensive replacements at the end of the game putting BA in CF and Swish at 1B.

I still haven't heard a reason why he doesn't deserve a look for a week or 2.
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Old 06-17-2008, 12:50 PM
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The hyperbole here is sometimes ridiculous. One person says that a 27 year old player, second in the league in slugging percentage, is worthless and too old to be anything but a journeyman minor leaguer. Yet the same people will argue that another 27 year old hitting .259, with no extra base hit capability is a good candidate to be brought up for his speed, when he has been caught 10 out of 27 attempts, playing in the very same league.
Either the League is so bad that you can't really evaluate a player at all, or the performance is at least somewhat indicative of their ability. But here, we want to dismiss one guy's production because it's only AAA. Then someone else asserts that another player is great, even though his production is horrible, even in the same bad league. Which is it?

It seems a lot of people overstate their case in these discussions. Lots of arguments have merit here, but they lack a little credibility with such strong statements, regarding questions of such great subjectivity.

Isn't it possible that someone else's opinion might have merit? Jeesh!!!!
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:20 PM
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Isn't it possible that someone else's opinion might have merit? Jeesh!!!!
That depends largely on what someone else's opinion is.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:21 PM
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The hyperbole here is sometimes ridiculous. One person says that a 27 year old player, second in the league in slugging percentage, is worthless and too old to be anything but a journeyman minor leaguer. Yet the same people will argue that another 27 year old hitting .259, with no extra base hit capability is a good candidate to be brought up for his speed, when he has been caught 10 out of 27 attempts, playing in the very same league.
Either the League is so bad that you can't really evaluate a player at all, or the performance is at least somewhat indicative of their ability. But here, we want to dismiss one guy's production because it's only AAA. Then someone else asserts that another player is great, even though his production is horrible, even in the same bad league. Which is it?

It seems a lot of people overstate their case in these discussions. Lots of arguments have merit here, but they lack a little credibility with such strong statements, regarding questions of such great subjectivity.

Isn't it possible that someone else's opinion might have merit? Jeesh!!!!
Or this a third, more likely possibility: Both of them suck and neither warrants a call-up. Dewayne Wise was just called up.
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