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Championships are always a mixture of luck and shrewd moves. Have fun trying to figure out the exact percentages, I guess. |
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While it is fair to question individual moves, I think it's better to withhold judgment on a GM's overall performance until after three full seasons. Hahn is halfway through Year 1, having inherited bad contracts, limited flexibility, injuries, and many inherited veterans inexplicably regressing at baserunning, hitting and fielding fundamentals.
But by all means continue to spout premature overreaction.
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And it could be that Hahn knew this team wasn't much and wasn't ready to win, so he didn't want to throw a resources into it. As it is, the young pitching has matured nicely (Quintana, Santiago, Jones), but the young hitting deteriorated (Viciedo, Flowers)....those guys weren't busts prior to this year, if they are now. And most of all, we turned into a lousy defensive team that runs bases like a bunch of clowns. |
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Viciedo and Flowers aren't busts, they're never weres. The book on both was career minor leaguer before either got called up. Yeah, they had the power tool early. But neither had the skill to adjust. So, yeah, that's a pretty ****-poor job of evaluating players. Asserting otherwise is getting pretty tiring. It's obvious that the talent evaluators outside our organization were right to say these guys didn't belong on a ball field. It's time to accept that. It's not like there was debate. It was the world against our organization. Whether it's stubborness or a lack of ability to evaluate, it's pretty obvious that those players and our management all need to go for this to stop. |
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TomBradley72 http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/334c0314 Players that are an important part of the rebuild: Anderson, Giolito, Lopez, Moncada |
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If the Sox have to trade Peavy I wish they could put something together with the Angels who are desperate for pitching. I would like to see P Bourjos CF G Richards and Shuck in White Sox uniforms. Bourjos is an excellent CF who has started to come into his own. G Richards could possibly move into the Sox rotation. Shuck has shown he can lead off and is a very good defense OF. Arizona could also be a possibility with Eaton healthy now. Rios should also bring some very good talent from possibly Texas, St Louis, or Oakland.
I also would love them to move Ramirez and DeAza who just can't get their heads into a game. They both have been terrible on the base's and in the field. |
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Of course, it's been pointed out many times, that KW was in charge of minor league development for the Sox prior to becoming GM. So, he does get credit for assembling that talent. |
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Here's my Monday morning quarterbacking:
The Sox were doomed by their hot July performance in 2009, 2010, and 2011. Had KW dismantled the team at the deadline in any of those years, we would be in a better place today.
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Not necessarily so. Rebuilding and dismantling is very risky, it's taken the Pirates 20 years to finally assemble a winner. I would also submit that given our inability to acquire young talent in recent years, we might be worse off.
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That doesn't even come close to telling the entire story of how the team got where they are now, but it's absolutely something worth mentioning. Every season, we'd go on a hot streak against the NL, and people would start to hope that we'd turned things around. Shortly afterward, the team would fall back to Earth.
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Some people just feed off negativity, you can tell who they are based off the past 3 months of posting. Kinda sad actually...
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IMO, none of this is on Rick Hahn. I think he's going to prove to be a big improvement over his predecessor. |
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