Time to Go for it

[Dibbs]

Chris Sale is more elite that McDowell ever was.

[SephClone89]

Originally Posted by Dibbs

Chris Sale is more elite that McDowell ever was.

Yep.

[kittle42]

Originally Posted by voodoochile

It doesn't hurt either and you cut off the part about him having 3 years of coaching experience on top of the 15 years of playing experience.

I didn't. Acknowledged it in another post. Only pointing out that a number of posters have defended Robin solely because he played the game for many years. By that logic, a ton of players with years of service are "qualified."

[ChiTownTrojan]

Originally Posted by kittle42

This really makes a ton of former MLB players qualified. It's really not a qualification, despite what the Sox think.

The key word in his post was "directly." His point was that he hadn't been out of baseball for most of a decade before he was hired, like the current Sox manager was.

[kittle42]

Originally Posted by ChiTownTrojan

The key word in his post was "directly." His point was that he hadn't been out of baseball for most of a decade before he was hired, like the current Sox manager was.

In my opinion, it doesn't change my point that I disagree with the position that simply having played the game qualifies someone to manage.

[white sox bill]

Originally Posted by kittle42

In my opinion, it doesn't change my point that I disagree with the position that simply having played the game qualifies someone to manage.

What was Ted Williams record as a manager? Gotta be pretty dismal....

[SCCWS]

Originally Posted by DeadMoney

Granted, they don't have any proven commodities in terms of position players, but they've collected a number of fine young players who can all blossom into something special.

And... "Come again?"

Sorry, Quintana. Sale is a stud and Q so far looks to be a solid 2-3 rotation guy. After that there are tons of question marks. Hopefully the Sox can go from 99 losses to 85 ish this year.

[kittle42]

Originally Posted by white sox bill

What was Ted Williams record as a manager? Gotta be pretty dismal....

273-364.

[white sox bill]

Originally Posted by kittle42

273-364.

Almost 100 games below .500, I'm surprized it wasn't worse. Point is that many managers who were good during playing yrs make lousy managers and vice versa...I know in my business some say the same about me.

As I see it, Robin had one good yr and one bad one. Let this yr be the tie breaker.

[ChicagoG19]

Originally Posted by white sox bill

Almost 100 games below .500, I'm surprized it wasn't worse. Point is that many managers who were good during playing yrs make lousy managers and vice versa...I know in my business some say the same about me.

As I see it, Robin had one good yr and one bad one. Let this yr be the tie breaker.

I really don't understand the Robin hate. He almost won the division his first year and had a bad second year. There have been plenty of marquee managers that do well in one city and are dismal in other cities. Most of the time, it's the players rather than the managers.

[Noneck]

Originally Posted by ChicagoG19

I really don't understand the Robin hate. He almost won the division his first year and had a bad second year. There have been plenty of marquee managers that do well in one city and are dismal in other cities. Most of the time, it's the players rather than the managers.

I agree, he is a respectable, classy guy that handles the media well. In the two years here, I have not heard any personnel issues with him and the players. With the number of coaches employed these days, a manager doesnt need to be a great teacher or strategist. The key is to have the right staff. I dont think Ventura is hiring the staff so if there is deficiency in those aspects, the blame should fall on the ones who hire the staff.

[asindc]

Originally Posted by ChicagoG19

I really don't understand the Robin hate. He almost won the division his first year and had a bad second year. There have been plenty of marquee managers that do well in one city and are dismal in other cities. Most of the time, it's the players rather than the managers.

Bingo. This isn't said nearly often enough on fan message boards.

[sullythered]

This ain't football. If we get the right players on the roster, Robin will be fine.

[kittle42]

Originally Posted by ChicagoG19

I really don't understand the Robin hate.

Good, because no on hates him.

He almost won the division his first year and had a bad second year. There have been plenty of marquee managers that do well in one city and are dismal in other cities. Most of the time, it's the players rather than the managers.

Carrying out this logic, the position of manager is fairly insignificant.

[Moses_Scurry]

Originally Posted by kittle42

Good, because no on hates him.



Carrying out this logic, the position of manager is fairly insignificant.

Now you're getting it!