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Old 09-10-2018, 08:48 PM
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It was a crap post by me for sure. My point is this: blame is not important but it is important to find where the communication broke down so things like this have a much less a chance of happening.


I want nothing but the best for the player, Kopech, as well as the White Sox franchise.

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Old 09-11-2018, 09:38 AM
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The fact that they are losing many games over many seasons dates back to decisions and structural factors that have their origins in the 2000s:

Draft philosophy (not wanting to pay bonuses or bonus penalties);

Doug Wilder scandal;

Aggressive player development philosophy to develop prospects to trade for veterans to support “win now” mentality.

All of those fundamental structural problems have been addressed.
I hope you know I was kidding. And I do agree with you on philosophies as a whole changing. Now, how good will the player development continue to be? And how aggressive will we realistically be in free agency?
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Old 09-11-2018, 03:32 PM
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I hope you know I was kidding. And I do agree with you on philosophies as a whole changing. Now, how good will the player development continue to be? And how aggressive will we realistically be in free agency?

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Old 09-11-2018, 05:20 PM
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We need to back the truck up on the whole Sox organization.
We need to let the rebuild play out. We knew that not everyone would make it.
And 90% of the talent is still down on the farm (or delayed by injuries).

Next year, we will be markedly better than we would've been if we had kept Ventura and continued to add declining veterans.
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Kopech had successful TJ surgery and will indeed be ready by Spring Training 2020.
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Kopech had successful TJ surgery and will indeed be ready by Spring Training 2020.
This is what we need now:

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This is what we need now:

Can't find those things anymore.
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:30 AM
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Can't find those things anymore.
I'm sure Amazon has 'em. They have everything!
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You can buy a DeLorean on Amazon.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:59 PM
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Kopech had successful TJ surgery and will indeed be ready by Spring Training 2020.
2020 could very well be an interesting year for the Sox with Kopech coming back and a wave of top prospects either already up to the majors or making their way up that season.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:56 PM
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There is a guy who has pinpointed what is going on with the TJS thing. It is about smoothness and timing of mechanics.
The pitching coach mechanics experts have found that having a "late load" increases the velocity of your fastball, that you otherwise wouldn't have if you were on time. A "late load" is defined as not having your arm in the upright L position when your plant foot hits the mound. They have also found that having your arm up early creates the same effect.

The gains in velocity that we're seeing from pitchers is 100% unsustainable. They're abusing their bodies to get that extra 4-5 mph. Proper timing is having your arm in the upright L position at the moment your plant foot hits the mound.

Having improper timing is a predictor of injury.

Freddy Garcia was early

Verlander is on time

Kopech is your classic late loader

Go look at their pitching videos and get back to me.
BTW, Kerry Wood and Prior were also classic late loaders.
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There you go! A flux capacitor and 1.21 gigawatts of electricity and you're all set.
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There is a guy who has pinpointed what is going on with the TJS thing. It is about smoothness and timing of mechanics.
The pitching coach mechanics experts have found that having a "late load" increases the velocity of your fastball, that you otherwise wouldn't have if you were on time. A "late load" is defined as not having your arm in the upright L position when your plant foot hits the mound. They have also found that having your arm up early creates the same effect.

The gains in velocity that we're seeing from pitchers is 100% unsustainable. They're abusing their bodies to get that extra 4-5 mph. Proper timing is having your arm in the upright L position at the moment your plant foot hits the mound.

Having improper timing is a predictor of injury.

Freddy Garcia was early

Verlander is on time

Kopech is your classic late loader

Go look at their pitching videos and get back to me.
BTW, Kerry Wood and Prior were also classic late loaders.
Haven't seen the vids but I am wondering: after successful surgery, does this guy think pitchers go back to their early or late loading to retain or regain extra velocity, or do they amend their ways and use proper timing?

Also, if I put what this guy is saying together with what Tommy John is saying, it seems possible that some kids are being coached to use the early or late timing, despite the risk of injury. It's one thing for an adult to decide to take the risk. I would hope that kids are taught proper form.
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I'm already hearing comparisons for Kopech to Strasburg and Prior, which is to say he'll never be the same pitcher. Never mind all the others who have had this surgery and been successful or that Strasburg has remained a mainstay in the Nationals' rotation.
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