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Old 10-22-2018, 05:41 PM
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From Garfien's "Sox Drawer" today:


Q: Jon Heyman tweeted out earlier that Joe Girardi pulled out of the Reds managerial search because he wants to wait a year for the Chicago job. Do you think he’s talking about the Sox? — @piratedwight

CG: I don’t know if the report is true or not, but what I do know is that Girardi grew up a Cubs fan and he later played for the Cubs. Put those two together and I’d assume he would love to manage them in the future. Something to consider: The main reason Yankees general manager Brian Cashman gave for firing Girardi in 2017 was that he felt he had trouble communicating and connecting with the young players. For a young, rebuilding team like the White Sox, that might be a red flag. Granted, that’s the Yankees' side of the story. Personally, I don’t think he’s interested in managing the White Sox.
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:32 PM
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I heard a recent interview with Peter Gammons in which he opined (in the context of discussing Joe Maddon's future with the Cubs) that the days of the high priced, "celebrity" managers are quickly coming to an end. Managing a baseball team is now viewed much more as a collaboration between GM (and staff), minor league director, scouting director and field manager (and staff). Gammons pointed out that most field managers are now hired for $1M per year (or less) and that few teams will be willing to shell out the mega bucks that Maddon currently makes.

What a bunch of BS (the theory, not you Lip).
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:39 PM
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Ricky should be gone in a year, but I have a sinking feeling that the Sox will extend him, the way they did with Ventura. I hope they use the whole season to evaluate him, and decide to move on.

Girardi doesn't make sense for the Sox, which is just fine, because I was never impressed with him as a big league manager. I think he won because the Yankees are perennially loaded.

Girardi fans, why is he better than Ricky?
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:44 AM
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I hope they use the whole season to evaluate him, and decide to move on.
Give him a fair trial, then take him out and hang him?
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:28 AM
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Give him a fair trial, then take him out and hang him?
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:25 AM
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It is irrelevant that he was a Cub fan growing up or that he once played for them. Under that theory, Jim Thome would not be on the Sox' payroll right now.

I still think Vizquel will be the next Manager. Not because he will "cost less," but because he knows the players better than Girardi will in the first year.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:35 AM
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It is irrelevant that he was a Cub fan growing up or that he once played for them. Under that theory, Jim Thome would not be on the Sox' payroll right now.

I still think Vizquel will be the next Manager. Not because he will "cost less," but because he knows the players better than Girardi will in the first year.
Pretty sure Omar is also fluent in Spanish. I don't know if Joe is but it would definitely help given the number of players the Sox have from Cuba and other Spanish speaking nations.
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Give him a fair trial, then take him out and hang him?
If the alternative is extend him before his contract's up, yes. He's been fine for a team that's trying to lose 100 games but he hasn't convinced me he has a great baseball mind.
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:57 PM
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The Girardi speculation is nothing but click bait.
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:59 PM
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It is irrelevant that he was a Cub fan growing up or that he once played for them. Under that theory, Jim Thome would not be on the Sox' payroll right now.

I still think Vizquel will be the next Manager. Not because he will "cost less," but because he knows the players better than Girardi will in the first year.

Will they un-retire #11 for him again?
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Old 10-23-2018, 03:16 PM
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The Girardi speculation is nothing but click bait.

I agree.
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Old 10-26-2018, 10:45 AM
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from Scott Merkin's mailbag yesterday:

Have you heard one tiny whisper at all that the Sox are considering replacing Ricky with Girardi?
Vince, Melrose Park, Ill. (@vinnyc52)

Rick Renteria is a White Sox manager the entire organization completely believes in from top to bottom, including the players -- just check out this quote from pitching coach Don Cooper concerning Renteria's entire staff.

"I've been here for 18 years, and the coaching staff we have is as prepared as we've ever been," Cooper said. "That's a good thing."

Have heard speculation the Sox will probably sign Ricky to a two year extension although it may have to happen before the 2019 season moves along...another 90-100 loss season and giving him an extension could be a hard sell to the fan base.
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"I've been here for 18 years, and the coaching staff we have is as prepared as we've ever been," Cooper said. "That's a good thing."
Good gracious.
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:06 AM
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I still think Vizquel will be the next Manager.
You're not alone.He (Vizquel) won't be content to manage the WS Dash forever.
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