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Old 05-27-2018, 03:11 PM
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Default Mike Trout

He's having himself a hell of a season and if you go by bWAR, he's on pace to have the best season...ever. Which is crazy to even fathom, but consider some of these numbers: https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...routmi01.shtml

He leads the majors in home runs, walks, on base percentage, and OPS+. He's top 5 in a ton of other categories.

Right now, he has 4.9 bWAR which is a pace for 15.3 bWAR. That would be the best bWAR any player has had for a single season. Ever. Better than Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, anyone.

As for his career bWAR, he's 7th among active players. The 6 players ahead of him (Pujols, Beltre, Cabrera, Cano, Utely, Ichiro) are all in their mid to late 30's. Mike Trout is only 26.

Oh and speaking of only being 26, also consider the fact he's about to pass several hall of famers in career bWAR: Vlad Guerrero, Yogi Berra, and Harmon Killebrew.

If injuries don't derail his career I have no doubt Trout will go down as one of the best players ever, or at least top 5. He's clearly the best player in the game and it's crazy we're witnessing history right now, but nobody ever talks about him like they do about players in New York, Boston, or LA.
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Old 05-27-2018, 03:28 PM
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He's having himself a hell of a season and if you go by bWAR, he's on pace to have the best season...ever. Which is crazy to even fathom, but consider some of these numbers: https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...routmi01.shtml

He leads the majors in home runs, walks, on base percentage, and OPS+. He's top 5 in a ton of other categories.

Right now, he has 4.9 bWAR which is a pace for 15.3 bWAR. That would be the best bWAR any player has had for a single season. Ever. Better than Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, anyone.

As for his career bWAR, he's 7th among active players. The 6 players ahead of him (Pujols, Beltre, Cabrera, Cano, Utely, Ichiro) are all in their mid to late 30's. Mike Trout is only 26.

Oh and speaking of only being 26, also consider the fact he's about to pass several hall of famers in career bWAR: Vlad Guerrero, Yogi Berra, and Harmon Killebrew.

If injuries don't derail his career I have no doubt Trout will go down as one of the best players ever, or at least top 5. He's clearly the best player in the game and it's crazy we're witnessing history right now, but nobody ever talks about him like they do about players in New York, Boston, or LA.
Oh what might have been for the White Sox.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:45 PM
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Oh what might have been for the White Sox.
That can be said for 23 other teams as well, seeing is Trout was the 25th pick. It wasn’t just the White Sox.
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:17 PM
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That can be said for 23 other teams as well, seeing is Trout was the 25th pick. It wasn’t just the White Sox.
True but the Angels took him immediately after the Sox made their forgettable selection.
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:27 PM
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True but the Angels took him immediately after the Sox made their forgettable selection.
Only after they passed on him with their 1st pick in the 1st round.
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:50 PM
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Mike Trout being taken as the 25th pick in the 2009 just highlights how much of a crap shoot the baseball draft really is.

Jared Mitchell was taken by the White Sox at 23 and then the Angels selected Randal Grichuk at 24 and then Trout at 25.

I don’t fault the White Sox on missing on their pick, because looking at the drafts, the majority of players don’t pan out especially >20th pick. It is what it is.
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Old 05-27-2018, 11:10 PM
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He's having himself a hell of a season and if you go by bWAR, he's on pace to have the best season...ever. Which is crazy to even fathom, but consider some of these numbers: https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...routmi01.shtml

He leads the majors in home runs, walks, on base percentage, and OPS+. He's top 5 in a ton of other categories.

Right now, he has 4.9 bWAR which is a pace for 15.3 bWAR. That would be the best bWAR any player has had for a single season. Ever. Better than Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, anyone.

As for his career bWAR, he's 7th among active players. The 6 players ahead of him (Pujols, Beltre, Cabrera, Cano, Utely, Ichiro) are all in their mid to late 30's. Mike Trout is only 26.

Oh and speaking of only being 26, also consider the fact he's about to pass several hall of famers in career bWAR: Vlad Guerrero, Yogi Berra, and Harmon Killebrew.

If injuries don't derail his career I have no doubt Trout will go down as one of the best players ever, or at least top 5. He's clearly the best player in the game and it's crazy we're witnessing history right now, but nobody ever talks about him like they do about players in New York, Boston, or LA.
Anaheim's pretty close to LA.
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:04 AM
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Ohtani appears to be a well above average hitter as well as well above average starting pitcher. We dont see it, but early in his career it was clear also an excellent outfielder. To me, that makes him the best player in the game. Sorry Trout. I'll still call you the best hitter though. Not sure I wouldnt take Berra in his prime over Trout, either, I dont care what WAR says.
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Old 05-28-2018, 01:24 AM
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...nobody ever talks about him like they do about players in New York, Boston, or LA.
He's in LA.
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Old 05-28-2018, 01:41 AM
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Ohtani appears to be a well above average hitter as well as well above average starting pitcher. We dont see it, but early in his career it was clear also an excellent outfielder. To me, that makes him the best player in the game. Sorry Trout. I'll still call you the best hitter though. Not sure I wouldnt take Berra in his prime over Trout, either, I dont care what WAR says.
Is this sarcasm, or.....

Trout has been playing at a HOF level since he was 20 and is having a career best season. When his career is over we might be discussing whether or not he was the best player post WWII.

Ohtani otoh has roughly a third of a ML season to his name.....
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Old 05-28-2018, 01:48 AM
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Sorry unless Trout can pitch the Angels to a win, Ohtani is the superior baseball player.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:21 AM
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Sorry unless Trout can pitch the Angels to a win, Ohtani is the superior baseball player.

Actually no, Ohtani is below Trout in terms of the offense and the defense components of the game.
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Old 05-28-2018, 08:01 AM
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He's in LA.
Yeah I just caught that after re-reading what I posted. My dumb mistake stays
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Old 05-28-2018, 08:03 AM
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Oh what might have been for the White Sox.
Can you imagine? Right now he'd arguably be what, the 6th best player in team history at the age of 26? Behind Frank, Pierce, Appling, Fox, Aparicio, and Shoeless. It's too bad we didn't draft him cause that'd be insane.
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Old 05-28-2018, 08:11 AM
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Can you imagine? Right now he'd arguably be what, the 6th best player in team history at the age of 26? Behind Frank, Pierce, Appling, Fox, Aparicio, and Shoeless. It's too bad we didn't draft him cause that'd be insane.
I’d add Walsh and Collins to your list but your point is well taken.
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