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Old 02-19-2018, 12:36 PM
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Does anybody have ideas about what levels these guys will start at in 2018? I assume Kopech is slated for Charlotte, and Jimemez and Hansen are likely headed to Birmingham, but what about the others?
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Old 02-19-2018, 12:41 PM
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Does anybody have ideas about what levels these guys will start at in 2018? I assume Kopech is slated for Charlotte, and Jimemez and Hansen are likely headed to Birmingham, but what about the others?
A lot will probably depend on what is shown in the spring camps.
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Old 02-20-2018, 01:31 PM
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No need to apologize for mentioning him, the fault lies with those who use the Tatis example as an indictment on current management practices, as rdivaldi noted very well. Itís as if no other baseball franchise, including the successful ones, makes these kinds of mistakes. The reigning World Series champion could have (and should have, according to many at the time) drafted Carlos Rodon, but didnít. That mistake came after nearly a decade of ineptness. And yet...
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The year before that, they also passed up Kris Bryant! And the guy they picked instead of him as the #1 overall pick isn't even in baseball anymore.
The reigning World Champs also released J.D. Martinez in spring 2014. He's been a stud ever since. Even good teams make bad decisions.
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:42 PM
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The reigning World Champs also released J.D. Martinez in spring 2014. He's been a stud ever since. Even good teams make bad decisions.
Quintana was a Rule 5 from the Yankees, wasn't he? More evidence of good teams making bad decisions. Heck, sometimes all a player needs is a change of scenery to unlock their potential, completely unrelated to how they were used by their previous team.
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Old 02-20-2018, 03:04 PM
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By the way the Sox P.R. department officially said how to pronounce Luis Robert's last name. It's just like the way you'd say a first name, ROBERT.
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Old 02-20-2018, 03:50 PM
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Quintana was a Rule 5 from the Yankees, wasn't he? More evidence of good teams making bad decisions. Heck, sometimes all a player needs is a change of scenery to unlock their potential, completely unrelated to how they were used by their previous team.
IIRC, Quintana was a minor league free agent and not a Rule 5 pickup.
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:06 PM
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IIRC, Quintana was a minor league free agent and not a Rule 5 pickup.
Somehow that strikes me as a more egregious error on the Yankees' part.
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:38 AM
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Somehow that strikes me as a more egregious error on the Yankees' part.
Both are pretty bad. It's funny how the Mets signed/released him, then the Yankees signed/released him.
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Old 02-23-2018, 12:46 PM
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Per Chris Kuc on Twitter "Another injury setback for White Sox outfield prospect Micker Adolfo. Elbow strains will sideline him at least six weeks. Surgery is possible."
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:13 PM
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Per Chris Kuc on Twitter "Another injury setback for White Sox outfield prospect Micker Adolfo. Elbow strains will sideline him at least six weeks. Surgery is possible."
I'd love to see him reach his potential, but he needs to prove he's not made of glass. :( At this point, let's just hope surgery is not required.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:36 PM
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Per Chris Kuc on Twitter "Another injury setback for White Sox outfield prospect Micker Adolfo. Elbow strains will sideline him at least six weeks. Surgery is possible."
Disappointing to hear since he has a lot of talent. He's only 21, so there's still time for him if he can ever stay healthy.
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:21 PM
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Very sad - he had the best name in the Sox system.
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Old 02-25-2018, 12:48 PM
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Fegan tweeted the Sox think Adolfo could play DH, he canít throw. while his elbow heals. If it doesnít heal then he would need Tommy John.

He said Adolfo was hitting off a tee today.
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Old 02-25-2018, 10:16 PM
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Guys, havenít seen too much spring training so far- howís Luis Robert looking? Overmatched?
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:16 AM
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https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...hielja02.shtml

He was a 34 year old pitcher on the downside of his career with a ton of innings already on his arm. Lots of folks had wanted the Sox to sign him the year before when he went to San Diego but they very wisely decided not to sign an aging veteran to a predictably bad long term contract.

Then, a year later, they traded a quality young prospect for an even older Shields with worse numbers. The trajectory was obvious. ERA, WHIP, FIP, ERA+, all of them markedly worse. Perhaps "washed up" overplays the point but the point still stands. It was an obviously bad trade at the time for a pitcher clearly heading in the wrong direction.
Here's a nice article on Tatis Jr.

The Shields move was a bad move. Hopefully, Shields provides some ROI. A return to just being serviceable by delivering quality innings this season would be great. Providing leadership to the younger pitchers on the staff would be a bonus.

https://www.mlb.com/news/san-diego-p...rs/c-267077692
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