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Old 01-22-2018, 05:27 PM
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I knew Collins and Burger were not making the list. But seeing that Alec Hansen is the lone guy we've drafted on this list tells you we should still have big concerns in our drafting and scouting.
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Old 01-23-2018, 05:53 AM
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Jake Burger checks in as the #10 third baseman in MLB.comís 2018 pre-season rankings.
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:26 AM
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But seeing that Alec Hansen is the lone guy we've drafted on this list tells you we should still have big concerns in our drafting and scouting.

Sox still need to draft better. Plain and simple.
Since the rules changed in 2013 it's very apparent that the Sox have been drafting better. This year's list has a few drafted guys in the system just outside the top 100, it's not as dire as you think.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:33 AM
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And I think the international signing is a huge part as well. The Sox are STILL recovering from the Wilder scandal years ago. I know they signed Robert, but that was an anomaly.

The Cubs in their rebuild signed some of the top Int'l FA including Eloy and Torres, which turned into Quintana and a championship.

But the Sox drafts recently have been graded much better by the industry as a whole than it had in the past when they seemed to think they were smarter than all the rest of the teams.
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:15 AM
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Jake Burger checks in as the #10 third baseman in MLB.comís 2018 pre-season rankings.
Here's the referenced list: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=3b

The write-up on Burger compares him to Todd Frazier.
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:17 AM
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The write-up on Burger compares him to Todd Frazier.
As long as he can hit for slightly better average and bring the same kind of glove that Frazier did, I'm okay with that (considering the other team pieces that will be around him when he comes up).
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Old 01-23-2018, 05:59 PM
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The write-up on Burger compares him to Todd Frazier.
Wonderful.
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:49 PM
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Wonderful.
Yes, it is nice to be compared to an All-Star caliber player....
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Old 01-24-2018, 12:01 AM
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Here's the referenced list: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=3b
Vlad Guerrero Jr. was given an 80 hit tool.... wow
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:40 AM
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Vlad Guerrero Jr. was given an 80 hit tool.... wow
I've never seen that before. In fact, in the past I have thought about commenting how pitchers and hitters are clearly graded differently. You will fairly often see a pitcher graded at 70 or 80 for one pitch or another but would never see a hitter graded at that for hit or power. Speed, arm, yes. Defense, sometimes, but hit or power? Never. 60 maybe 65 was as awesome a grade as I ever saw there. And they give him an 80? Weird grade system.
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Old 01-24-2018, 09:07 AM
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Edited to note that I was looking at 2017 list not 2018.

2018 SS prospect list out from MLB. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=ss

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Old 01-24-2018, 11:57 AM
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I've never seen that before. In fact, in the past I have thought about commenting how pitchers and hitters are clearly graded differently. You will fairly often see a pitcher graded at 70 or 80 for one pitch or another but would never see a hitter graded at that for hit or power. Speed, arm, yes. Defense, sometimes, but hit or power? Never. 60 maybe 65 was as awesome a grade as I ever saw there. And they give him an 80? Weird grade system.
Yeah I don't remember seeing hit tool grades over 65 come to think of it. They seem to be throwing high hit tool grades around this year with Guerrero Jr. at 80 and Torres, Senzel, Bichette all at 70. Would have to imagine that Eloy will be a 65/70 too.
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Old 01-24-2018, 12:06 PM
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Yeah I don't remember seeing hit tool grades over 65 come to think of it. They seem to be throwing high hit tool grades around this year with Guerrero Jr. at 80 and Torres, Senzel, Bichette all at 70. Would have to imagine that Eloy will be a 65/70 too.
Jimenez was a 55 hit tool as of 2017. MLB's OF prospect evaluations come out tomorrow.
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:48 PM
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Jimenez was a 55 hit tool as of 2017. MLB's OF prospect evaluations come out tomorrow.
It will be interesting to see if they have changed their process or not. Jiminez will be a good clue. He's currently 55 hit, 60 power. Guerrero was also 55 hit, 60 power in last years listing. Now he is 80/65. He had a good year but not remarkably better than Jiminez.
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:28 PM
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Jimenez was a 55 hit tool as of 2017. MLB's OF prospect evaluations come out tomorrow.
Jimenez is a Hit: 60 | Power: 70 | Speed: 40 | Fielding: 45 | Arm: 45

Robert: Hit: 55 | Power: 60 | Speed: 70 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 60
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