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Old 05-10-2018, 09:16 PM
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For the record, I'm pleased with Dunning's progress. If he continues this performance in Birmingham, put him in Charlotte in 2019 and in Chicago in 2020.
If he continues this performance, he gets a September callup, and has a chance to open 2019 in Chicago.
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Old 05-11-2018, 05:40 AM
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If he continues this performance, he gets a September callup, and has a chance to open 2019 in Chicago.
I guess thatís possible, but itís not consistent with the patience the Sox have shown recently with their other prospects.
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Old 05-11-2018, 10:44 AM
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I guess thatís possible, but itís not consistent with the patience the Sox have shown recently with their other prospects.
The key word being recently. Fulmer and Bummer were brought up quickly.
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Old 05-12-2018, 10:04 PM
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It wouldnt be much of a rush. If he pitches well this year it would his 24 year season following three years of strong minor league performance after pitching for a major college program
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Old 05-12-2018, 10:19 PM
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The key word being recently. Fulmer and Bummer were brought up quickly.
And the results for both show that was a big mistake.
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Old 05-13-2018, 04:58 AM
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And the results for both show that was a big mistake.

Do you think Fulmer's issue was being brought up too early or just the wrong pick by the White Sox?
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:46 AM
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Do you think Fulmer's issue was being brought up too early or just the wrong pick by the White Sox?
I think Fulmer was brought up too early, and I think he doesnít have enough plus pitches to be a starter. I think his future is as a high-leverage reliever: either a closer or set-up guy, or a 2-3 inning ďfiremanĒ like Andrew Miller. If he can succeed in any of those thre bullpen roles, it will not have been a wasted pick.
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Old 05-13-2018, 09:09 AM
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So the time to make the cut over to reliever is when?
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Old 05-13-2018, 09:19 AM
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So the time to make the cut over to reliever is when?
At earliest next year probably. They don't have anyone to take the innings anyway and might as well let him sink or swim for a while and see what happens.
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Old 05-13-2018, 09:32 AM
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And the results for both show that was a big mistake.
The difference is that neither had done anything above A ball to justify their callups.
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Old 05-13-2018, 09:39 AM
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So the time to make the cut over to reliever is when?
Once Kopech and Rodon are in the rotation. At that point, we can go:

Giolito, Lopez, Rodon, Kopech, Shields in the rotation, and

Fulmer, Gonzalez, Santiago, Volstad, to the bullpen (along with Beck, Fry, and Bummer), because they can pitch multiple innings in relief of one of the starters.

Then package Jones, Avilan, Soria, Avi Garcia (since Eloy will be up, too), and cash, to a contender who needs multiple relievers and a bat, in exchange for one solid prospect. (Kind of like the Blake Rutherford deal, but this time get a LHP or a SS/3B prospect.)

In addition to the rotation and bullpen listed above, your lineup/bench is:

2B Moncada
3B Yolmer
1B Abreu
DH Davidson
RF Eloy
LF Delmonico
C Castillo
SS Anderson
CF Engel

Bench: Narvaez, Palka, Leury, Trayce

Itís still not a .500 roster, but the return of Moncada and Rodon, plus the additions of Kopech and Eloy, should make it better than it is presently.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:10 PM
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Then package Jones, Avilan, Soria, Avi Garcia (since Eloy will be up, too), and cash, to a contender who needs multiple relievers and a bat, in exchange for one solid prospect. (Kind of like the Blake Rutherford deal, but this time get a LHP or a SS/3B).
That package of major league spare parts is not going to get you anything like Blake Rutherford. To get quality, you have to give up quality, and that means trading Jose Abreu.

I still would be interested in dealing those players to bring back some minor league spare parts, though. Some pitchers who have clean slates regarding their service time would be welcome additions. Shedding some salary wouldnít hurt, either.
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