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Old 05-02-2018, 04:03 PM
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Default Trade Idea- Reasonable or dumb?

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White Sox: Rutherford, Rondon, and Nate Jones

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Astros: Tucker

We get a ready to play major league prospect who can join Moncada for the slow move to success next year, and the Astros get some much needed bullpen help (plus don't lose much in terms of talent since Rutherford is special).
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:57 PM
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Let me know what you guys think:

White Sox: Rutherford, Rondon, and Nate Jones

for

Astros: Tucker

We get a ready to play major league prospect who can join Moncada for the slow move to success next year, and the Astros get some much needed bullpen help (plus don't lose much in terms of talent since Rutherford is special).
I think Bruce Rondon will be back to sucking by the time the Astros start looking to shore up the bullpen with trades.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:35 PM
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Let me know what you guys think:

White Sox: Rutherford, Rondon, and Nate Jones

for

Astros: Tucker

We get a ready to play major league prospect who can join Moncada for the slow move to success next year, and the Astros get some much needed bullpen help (plus don't lose much in terms of talent since Rutherford is special).
Not sure why we'd trade 3 for 1; that seems like an overpay for Tucker, and the Astros would still resist giving him up. Rutherford has erased the worries from last season, Rondon and Nate Jones should each bring back useful pieces at the deadline.
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:10 PM
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The Astros wouldnít make this deal. Better pitchers than Jones will be available for less than Tucker.
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Old 05-03-2018, 06:33 AM
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I donít know that I would make this particular trade, but this is the kind of trade proposal that intrigues me.

But for argumentís sake, by dealing the cost-controlled Jones, weíre essentially buying two years of accelerated development (particularly power) by turning Rutherford into Tucker. For the Sox to consider this, they pretty much have to think that Tucker is the future RF. This seals Avi Garciaís fate, probably makes Adolfo superfluous, and puts Gonzalez and Basabe into competition to be the 4th OF and CF backup if Robert falters.

A future OF of Eloy-Robert-Tucker is might tempting.
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:58 AM
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Astros aren't trading Tucker or Whitley, they need them to replace FAs in the next few years. Neither were available in the Verlander and Cole trades, so I doubt they'd give Tucker up for Nate Jones.

Yordan Alvarez would be movable.
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Old 05-03-2018, 09:41 AM
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Why would the Astros trade Tucker in the first place?

Nate Jones is picking up right where he left off. He's 32 but doesn't have a ton of mileage on his arm. He's a guy who can provide another 4 good to serviceable years in the bullpen. Unless another team comes along with an offer Hahn can't refuse, hold on to him.
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Old 05-03-2018, 12:45 PM
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I'd make that trade from a Sox perspective, but the Astros wouldn't.

Bruce Rondon started the season in the minors and has a sketchy track record. Not sure he has much value.

Hopefully, Jones becomes a trade piece by July, but I think he has to prove to other clubs that he can stay healthy.
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:48 AM
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Jones and Rondon don't have any value. So that's essentially Rutherford for Tucker, which the Astros would reject.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:19 AM
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I Dont think the Astros even consider this. Rutherford has 8 homers in 600+ MILB ABs. Until he shows some power, he is literally all projection. He is not an effective enough base stealer to be a threat without hitting 20 homers in the bigs.

I Also dont make any trade with the worry it seals Aviś fate. Avi controls his own fate. If he proves last season was not a total fluke, he will be here. IF he (likely) regresses to his norm, he has to be replaced.

Too much >>> Too Little.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:14 PM
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If we're going to make a trade- I would prefer we trade to fill a hole that is not likely to be filled through our farm system.

My rank order would be:

3rd baseman
LH starting pitcher
catcher (due to questions about Collins' defense)

When the time comes- trade from where we MIGHT have excess- outfield prospects and possibly young RH pitchers.
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:00 PM
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The Astros hang up and start posting memes about Rick Hahn on Reddit two minutes after this deal is proposed.

You don't get a top 10 prospect for spare parts and a top 150 OF prospect with little zap in his bat.
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X and Y don't have any value.
I've heard that line before.
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Old 05-20-2018, 03:41 AM
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If we're going to make a trade- I would prefer we trade to fill a hole that is not likely to be filled through our farm system.

My rank order would be:

3rd baseman
LH starting pitcher
catcher (due to questions about Collins' defense)

When the time comes- trade from where we MIGHT have excess- outfield prospects and possibly young RH pitchers.
Agreed, we already have two of the best OF prospects in the world, not to mention Rutherford et al.
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