OFFICIAL - 2013-14 Off-Season Wheeling and Dealing Thread

[spawn]

Originally Posted by HomeFish

The crazy part of the deal is the 10 years, not the $30 million/yr.

Robinson Cano will not be worth $30 million at age 41.

It's 10 years, $240 million, so that's $24 million/yr. He won't be worth $24 million at 41 either.

[LoveYourSuit]

Originally Posted by Noneck

Knowing whats going on will let you make an informed decision if you want to put out the dough, to support whats going on.

So you are of the belief that Sox have the resources to take part in this craziness of Free Agency?

You honestly think Reinsdorf could have signed Cano or Elsbury to those deals if he wanted to?

[doublem23]

Originally Posted by spawn

It's 10 years, $240 million, so that's $24 million/yr. He won't be worth $24 million at 41 either.

No but sometimes you have to overpay at the end of a deal to get the prime years at a discount which, if Cano plays as he is projected to over the course of this contract, the Mariners will actually get a solid return on their investment:

http://deadspin.com/robinson-cano-ge...ise-1477965343

It's also worth noting, I haven't seen how the dollars break down per year, but if he's making a straight $24 million per year every year, that also works out very heavily in Seattle's favor as $24 million won't be as valuable in 10 years as it is now.

[doublem23]

Originally Posted by LoveYourSuit

So you are of the belief that Sox have the resources to take part in this craziness of Free Agency?

You honestly think Reinsdorf could have signed Cano or Elsbury to those deals if he wanted to?

Barring any other moves, for the Sox to field a full 25-man team, their payroll will probably come in around $71 million to open the season, which is about $40 million less than their Opening Day payroll to start the '12 season so yeah, I got a feeling they could have found a way to pay a guy about 60% of the cash they still haven't used from last season.

I'm pretty sure Peavy and Rios combined were making more than Cano

[Noneck]

Originally Posted by LoveYourSuit

So you are of the belief that Sox have the resources to take part in this craziness of Free Agency?

You honestly think Reinsdorf could have signed Cano or Elsbury to those deals if he wanted to?

Considering that the Sox are valued a bit higher than the mariners, are in a larger tv market, have the sweetest stadium deal in the mlb, my answer would be yes.

[samurai_sox]

Originally Posted by doublem23

Rangers sign J.P. Arencibia... 1 year, $1.8 million guaranteed with approximately $300,000 of performance bonuses available

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...arencibia.html

Another catcher off the market

Good, Arencibia is AWFUL, I wanted him nowhere near the Sox.

[Soxman219]

Beltran to NYY

[WhiteSox5187]

Originally Posted by samurai_sox

Good, Arencibia is AWFUL, I wanted him nowhere near the Sox.

Can he catch the ball on a consistent basis? If so, I would argue he is better than anyone we have.

[StillMissOzzie]

Originally Posted by doublem23

Royals non-tender former White Sox draftee/prospect/infielder Chris Getz

http://kingsofkauffman.com/2013/12/0...z-time-royals/

First Mrs. Getz and Mrs. DeJesus get bounced from The Amazing Race, and now this?

That link said that Getz batted .248 over his four year stint with the Royals. He must have been about .220 against the rest of MLB, because he always seemed to hit .300 against the Sox. A western pirahna, as it were.

SMO

[DSpivack]

Originally Posted by StillMissOzzie

First Mrs. Getz and Mrs. DeJesus get bounced from The Amazing Race, and now this?

That link said that Getz batted .248 over his four year stint with the Royals. He must have been about .220 against the rest of MLB, because he always seemed to hit .300 against the Sox. A western pirahna, as it were.

SMO

.248 career hitter vs the White Sox.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...ear=Career&t=b

[Chez]

Mike Napoli re-signs with the other Sox.
http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/...sox-agree-deal

[SOX ADDICT '73]

Originally Posted by Soxman219

Beltran to NYY

Good - now I can go back to hating him with a passion! As a sort-of Cardinals fan, I had been forced to begrudgingly root for him the last couple of years.

[HomeFish]

Nationals sign Nate McLouth as a 4th outfielder for $10.75m/2 years.

[russ99]

Originally Posted by HomeFish

Nationals sign Nate McLouth as a 4th outfielder for $10.75m/2 years.

Wow, that's a bit steep for a player like McLouth.

I was holding out a little hope the Sox would go after him, but not at that number.

Astros also signed Chad Qualls for the pen, $6M for 2 years with an option.

I hear they're in on Jesse Crain too, likely to close.

[gobears1987]

Originally Posted by doublem23

No but sometimes you have to overpay at the end of a deal to get the prime years at a discount which, if Cano plays as he is projected to over the course of this contract, the Mariners will actually get a solid return on their investment:

http://deadspin.com/robinson-cano-ge...ise-1477965343

It's also worth noting, I haven't seen how the dollars break down per year, but if he's making a straight $24 million per year every year, that also works out very heavily in Seattle's favor as $24 million won't be as valuable in 10 years as it is now.

He's already 31, the bulk of his prime years are past him. Once a player gets past 31, it is unpredictable when he will start to break down. For all we know, he might start a steep decline at 32. It's happened before. Just look at Adam Dunn. He might have many prime years ahead of him, but it is just as likely if not more so that he will break down early in this contract.

This is a dumb deal no matter how you look at it and I'm going to be laughing at the Mariners for the next decade.