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Old 05-08-2009, 12:04 AM
Ditka v. God Ditka v. God is offline
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Default Favorite Underrated Sox Prospect

I've noticed recently that most of the attention most people are giving to our minor league system surrounds the "uber-prospects" in our system. (i.e. Beckham, Viciedo, Flowers, JorDanks, Poreda, etc.) I was wondering which players the die-hard minor league followers had their eye on that doesn't really get their due attention.

My top five currently are:

C.J. Retherford
- (Birmingham, 2B) - 23 year old undrafted free agent that might be the best pure ballplayer on a loaded Barons squad. Reminds me of a hard-nosed, throwback.

Daniel Hudson/Dexter Carter - (Winston-Salem, SP/Kannapolis, SP) - I put these two together because they're both from Old Dominion, drafted in the same draft, both have been absolutely sick since entering professional ball and both are best friends to boot.

Christian Marrero - (W-S, LF) - younger brother of Eli Marrero, Christian started the season off on a tear and made JorDanks look bad for a while. Good baseball pedigree, seems to be an advanced hitter for his age.

Brent Morel - (W-S, 3B) - last year's third round pick, came flying out of the gate last year and after a slow start this year has really poured it on lately. Currently has 6HR and 10SB this year. (only 1CS) Maybe potentially a homeless man's David Wright?

Stefan Gartrell - (Birmingham, OF) - nothing from his stats really pop out at you but I've always liked how he's managed to adjust to every league he's been pushed to. I get the feeling that he could be a sleeper, Ellis Burks-type potentially.

Anyone else have any "underrated favorites"?
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:35 AM
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Put me in the Hudson/Carter and Morel camp.

Morel has been on a tear lately and his BA is beginning to creep up to where it should be. On top of that his plate discipline is looking good and the power that many scouts said wouldn't translate has been there so far.

Hudson and Carter everyone should be pulling for, as they are most likely the best young pitching prospects we have in a thin pitching system. (Aside from Poreda of course) They are also a great story as you already mentioned. Especially Carter after his dreadful college numbers have turned into exceptional ones after the Sox changed his mechanics. Both have ceilings of 3rd or 4th starters.

Side note, I was really looking forward to listening to Matusz vs Hudson in his High-A debut, and was very disappointed that it was rained out yesterday. Then today his rescheduled debut was cut short to 2.0 IP because of a rain delay. He did post a solid line though:

2 IP, 0 hits, 0 BB, 3 K
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:50 AM
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I've noticed recently that most of the attention most people are giving to our minor league system surrounds the "uber-prospects" in our system. (i.e. Beckham, Viciedo, Flowers, JorDanks, Poreda, etc.) I was wondering which players the die-hard minor league followers had their eye on that doesn't really get their due attention.

My top five currently are:

C.J. Retherford
- (Birmingham, 2B) - 23 year old undrafted free agent that might be the best pure ballplayer on a loaded Barons squad. Reminds me of a hard-nosed, throwback.

Daniel Hudson/Dexter Carter - (Winston-Salem, SP/Kannapolis, SP) - I put these two together because they're both from Old Dominion, drafted in the same draft, both have been absolutely sick since entering professional ball and both are best friends to boot.

Christian Marrero - (W-S, LF) - younger brother of Eli Marrero, Christian started the season off on a tear and made JorDanks look bad for a while. Good baseball pedigree, seems to be an advanced hitter for his age.

Brent Morel - (W-S, 3B) - last year's third round pick, came flying out of the gate last year and after a slow start this year has really poured it on lately. Currently has 6HR and 10SB this year. (only 1CS) Maybe potentially a homeless man's David Wright?

Stefan Gartrell - (Birmingham, OF) - nothing from his stats really pop out at you but I've always liked how he's managed to adjust to every league he's been pushed to. I get the feeling that he could be a sleeper, Ellis Burks-type potentially.

Anyone else have any "underrated favorites"?
That's stupid.

I like Tyler Kuhn a bit. Lucas Harrell as well.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:12 AM
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Morel looks good with big possibilities.

Hudson/ Carter are hard to tell until they get to Birmingham. 22 year old college pitchers dominating A ball doesn't say all that much.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:52 AM
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Tyler Kuhn, Jose Martinez and John Shelby. Kuhn hit hit and hit some more when he started last year. He has moved to the OF because of too many IF's on the team. I think I remember Baseball America saying that Kuhn was a prospect that fell through the cracks and hopefully the Sox can benefit 2-3 years down the road.
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Old 05-08-2009, 05:56 PM
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That's stupid.

I like Tyler Kuhn a bit. Lucas Harrell as well.
First off, thanks!!! That was rather insightful and a valuable contribution to the thread. I'll disregard the fact that comments like these are usually made by mental midgets with an intellectual Napoleon complex and move along.

Second of all, what other player on the Birmingham squad do you know of that could play any position on the field (including pitcher) and still hit for the best average on the team for a better part of the season?

There are some people in this world that are just pure negative energy and a complete drain on society as a whole and as you've demonstrated throughout your posting history on WSI, you sir are a perfect example of one of these people.

Also, I'd like to thank all the other posters that have responded with well thought out, constructive replies.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:38 PM
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First off, thanks!!! That was rather insightful and a valuable contribution to the thread. I'll disregard the fact that comments like these are usually made by mental midgets with an intellectual Napoleon complex and move along.

Second of all, what other player on the Birmingham squad do you know of that could play any position on the field (including pitcher) and still hit for the best average on the team for a better part of the season?

There are some people in this world that are just pure negative energy and a complete drain on society as a whole and as you've demonstrated throughout your posting history on WSI, you sir are a perfect example of one of these people.

Also, I'd like to thank all the other posters that have responded with well thought out, constructive replies.
If you simply stated that you were impressed with Retherford's versatility and ability to hit for contact, that'd be alright. But, you called him possibly the best "pure ballplayer" in Birmingham. That's ridiculous.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:00 PM
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If you simply stated that you were impressed with Retherford's versatility and ability to hit for contact, that'd be alright. But, you called him possibly the best "pure ballplayer" in Birmingham. That's ridiculous.
And if you had simply asked for my reasoning behind in making this comment or provided a player as a better example rather than flinging a childish "quip" at me, than maybe you wouldn't come off like a complete and total chode.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:41 PM
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And if you had simply asked for my reasoning behind in making this comment or provided a player as a better example rather than flinging a childish "quip" at me, than maybe you wouldn't come off like a complete and total chode.
It was a stupid statement, and still is, even with your reasoning. Let it go.
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Old 05-09-2009, 02:16 PM
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And if you had simply asked for my reasoning behind in making this comment or provided a player as a better example rather than flinging a childish "quip" at me, than maybe you wouldn't come off like a complete and total chode.
Don't worry about that guy. He knows very little and thinks he knows it all. And the rest of us here know THAT.

Besides, I wasn't even sure what he was calling "stupid," since your post had about 5 points in it (each of which were interesting, by the way). But, again, consider the source.
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:46 PM
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First off, thanks!!! That was rather insightful and a valuable contribution to the thread. I'll disregard the fact that comments like these are usually made by mental midgets with an intellectual Napoleon complex and move along.

Second of all, what other player on the Birmingham squad do you know of that could play any position on the field (including pitcher) and still hit for the best average on the team for a better part of the season?

There are some people in this world that are just pure negative energy and a complete drain on society as a whole and as you've demonstrated throughout your posting history on WSI, you sir are a perfect example of one of these people.

Also, I'd like to thank all the other posters that have responded with well thought out, constructive replies.
Consider the source.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:52 AM
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Old 05-08-2009, 07:42 PM
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Old 05-24-2009, 12:49 PM
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I'm pulling for John Ely to end up as a solid mid- to low rotation starter for the Sox. Nothing spectacular, just gets the job done.

And even though he's one of the higher rated prospects I think "Treybone" Shelby is a fantastic player, and doesn't get his full due, even though he might eventually just be a better version of Willie Harris.
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Old 05-24-2009, 01:27 PM
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I have no idea what he throws or if he is a legit prospect but Dan Remenowsky has been nothing but lights-out since he signed with the Sox as a NDFA last year. 8-1, 7 saves 1.15 ERA 47 IPs 11 BB 63 K. He's a big guy, so hopefully he has some heat.
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