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Old 11-02-2018, 09:20 AM
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Well whether the Sox should give up Moncada for him is a matter of opinion. They would certainly be silly not to explore other options first especially with the Marlins' Hands tied at the moment.

And I wonder if the Marlins would actually consider it a "ridiculous and unrealistic" offer. I would bet a lot of teams out there still covet Moncada even if he did just have a spotty at best first full season.
Good points. Also consider that Moncada has more years of team control remaining than Realmuto.

Iím not sure the Sox should make that deal, though. Iíd like to give Moncada more time. Switch hitters take longer to develop because they have two swings to refine and adjust.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:07 AM
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The same people clamoring for this deal would be the ones who would then slam Hahn if JT regressed and Moncada hit his Cano like ceiling.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:47 AM
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I think the Marlins would be demanding Jimenez as a headliner, not Moncada.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:57 AM
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I think the Marlins would be demanding Jimenez as a headliner, not Moncada.
Thatís probably true considering theyíve spent the last year holding out for Robles from Washington. Though it has been reported repeatedly that Realmuto does not get along with the Marlins org and will not sign an extension, so perhaps this winter weíll start to see his price go down a little bit.

I know itís totally hypothetical, but if you could convince Realmuto to sign an extension, I think Iíd give them Moncada in a heartbeat, especially with Madrigal in the system.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:16 PM
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The same people clamoring for this deal would be the ones who would then slam Hahn if JT regressed and Moncada hit his Cano like ceiling.
I would consider making this deal and I would not slam Hahn in your mentioned scenario.

Besides, the Marlins have already shown they'll take garbage for superstars. Hahn should call Jeter and pretend to be Brian Cashman.

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Old 11-02-2018, 01:35 PM
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Good points. Also consider that Moncada has more years of team control remaining than Realmuto.

I’m not sure the Sox should make that deal, though. I’d like to give Moncada more time. Switch hitters take longer to develop because they have two swings to refine and adjust.
Pete Rose, Mickey Mantle, Eddie Murray, Chpper Jones, Carlos Beltran, Roberto Alomar and more than a few other switch hitters might beg to differ with you. Not that I'm putting Moncada in their class but when we acquired him, the hype on him was more than a little over the top and he was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, not a strikeout machine. At this point in time I would trade Moncada for Realmuto in a New York minute. As someone mentioned earlier, it opens up 2B for Madrigal.
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:43 PM
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If the Sox are considering trading Moncada, it should be for someone like Nick Senzel who is blocked by Suarez for the foreseeable future. Senzel would fill a needed longer term current hole at 3b, and Madrigal could stay at 2b.
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Old 11-02-2018, 03:38 PM
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Kershaw resigns with the Dodgers, three years / 93 million.
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Old 11-02-2018, 03:39 PM
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If the Sox are considering trading Moncada, it should be for someone like Nick Senzel who is blocked by Suarez for the foreseeable future. Senzel would fill a needed longer term current hole at 3b, and Madrigal could stay at 2b.
The Reds had him playing a lot of SS and CF this past year. Would love to have Senzel but I donít think heís going anywhere, hopefully to the Cuban misfortune.
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:06 PM
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Kershaw resigns with the Dodgers, three years / 93 million.
That's a massive hometown discount!
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:14 PM
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That's a massive hometown discount!
31 million a year, unbelievable. What would another team endow him with?
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:39 PM
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31 million a year, unbelievable. What would another team endow him with?
AAV would be about the same, but not for only 3 years.
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Old 11-02-2018, 05:22 PM
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31 million a year, unbelievable. What would another team endow him with?
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AAV would be about the same, but not for only 3 years.
And he only gained 1 year. He had an option for 2/65.
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Old 11-02-2018, 05:38 PM
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Good points. Also consider that Moncada has more years of team control remaining than Realmuto.
That's the key point. Realmuto has 2 years of control. Trading for him is 2015 redux. As much as I think Hahn is botching this rebuild, reverting to his 2015 ways would be worse.
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:15 PM
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No no no... don't you see? A soft lollipop bloop traveling at 60 MPH is just as likely to create a hit as a screaming line drive traveling 115 is.

Do I really need to put that in teal?

Ha ha! Yes, keep caring about style points. I'll concern myself with batting average and wins...Oh ****! I forgot wins by more than 10 runs count more than "ordinary" wins! Do I need to put that in teal....?
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