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Old 09-08-2019, 09:02 AM
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Watching the Cubs this year - at least offensively- reminds of the pre-2005 White Sox teams. Essentially softball teams - swinging for the fences, capable of putting up 12 or 13 runs. Sandwiches between several gams of 1 or 2 runs.

In today's game it's a lot of all or nothing for many teams.
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:45 AM
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Exactly. Which is why you play it off the wall and hold the runner.
Although I agree with a previous poster that our LF would have done the exact same thing.
The bounce off the wall was at an unexpected sharp angle to the right. Nobody gets it. Take another look at it.
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Old 09-08-2019, 11:52 AM
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The bounce off the wall was at an unexpected sharp angle to the right. Nobody gets it. Take another look at it.
Exactly...
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Old 09-08-2019, 12:13 PM
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It took balls to make a trade like Carlos Lee for a an OF with no power who stole bases.
Vizcaino was no slouch either. I recall times in ‘05 where he was our most reliable guy out of the pen.
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Old 09-09-2019, 07:06 PM
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Cubs saying Baez is out for the rest of the regular season.
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Old 09-09-2019, 08:02 PM
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Even though they are 1.5 games up for the 2nd wildcard spot, this team feels like the wheels are coming off and they are resigned to their offseason fate. I think the whole roster knows changes are a coming once the season is over.
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Old 09-09-2019, 08:12 PM
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Cubs saying Baez is out for the rest of the regular season.
Apparently, they are bringing up their top prospect to fill the shortstop void. I don't know how that will work out because I don't believe he's on the 40-man roster.

The Cubs have just 20 games left. They are down 4.5, which is the farthest they've been down since April. After tonight, they will be either 4 or 5 behind St. Louis with 19 games remaining for both teams.

The reason for Cubs optimism, or at least hope, is the seven games left with the Cardinals. The Cardinals needed the cushion they have built up while the Cubs were losing to the Brewers. They have four left at Wrigley and finish the season hosting the Cubs for three games. As long as the difference between the two teams is going into that last weekend is 3 or less, the division will be decided at the end of the last St. Louis homestand. That's assuming that the Brewers, who can help the Cubs by beating the Cardinals in St. Louis in the middle of the month, don't overtake the Cubs. The Brewers are winning tonight, and a Cubs loss in San Diego would put them 5 back of the Cardinals and 1 up on the Brewers with 19 left.

Injuries don't help the Cubs situation. They would have to have an epic stretch to win the division, perhaps even just the second wild card. There are still a number of ways it could play out, but in the end the Diamondbacks trading Grienke at the deadline could put the Astros over the top and enable the Cubs to grab the second wild card, although they would figure to be overmatched.
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Old 09-10-2019, 09:51 PM
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Brewers just announced that Yelich is done for the year with a fractured kneecap so the wild card race for the Cubs just got easier.
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Old 09-10-2019, 10:32 PM
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Brewers just announced that Yelich is done for the year with a fractured kneecap so the wild card race for the Cubs just got easier.
But the division a bit tougher? STL plays MILW this weekend.
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Old 09-11-2019, 06:15 AM
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Brutal loss for them last night. They scored 3 in the 8th to tie the Padres, then in the 10th Cishek walked three in a row; including the winning run.
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:48 AM
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Brutal loss for them last night. They scored 3 in the 8th to tie the Padres, then in the 10th Cishek walked three in a row; including the winning run.
The Cubs needed that win. The Cardinals lost a tough game in Colorado. Washington lost in Minnesota and the Brewers, although they've lost Yellich, were winning in Miami; The Cubs are just 2.5 behind Washington for home field in the one-game wild-card play-in game, but they have three teams within 2.5 games for the second wild-card slot.

Except for the three with the Marlins, the Nationals have a tough schedule, facing the Braves, wild-card contender Phillies for 5, three in St. Louis and finishing the season hosting Cleveland, which may still be playing for the wild card as their division hopes look more desperate than the Cubs. Because the Cubs lost the season series to the Nationals, they would have to finish ahead of them for homefield in the play-in game.

That's assuming that the teams behind the Cubs don't make any sort of a move. The Cubs, for example, presumably would need help from the Phillies to catch the Nationals, but the Phillies are just 2 games behind the Cubs. The division is still a chance for the Cubs, but the Cardinals have six games against teams that are within two games of the Cubs for the wild card. Meanwhile, all the teams the Cardinals play after their current trip to Colorado, are trying to to get at least a wild-card spot, facing the Brewers, Nationals, Diamondbacks and, most importantly, seven with the Cubs. Cardinals losses to any teams other than the Cubs could hurt the Cubs wild-card chances. Even without Yelich, the Brewers could catch the Cardinals if the Cubs catch the Cardinals if the Cardinals collapse to the point of losing the division.

The wild card in the National League this year has made the race just that, especially with the one-game play-in aspect. The schedule-makers got it right as far as far as the last half of September is concerned. There could be playoffs to get to the play-in game or even a three-way playoff for the NL East title.

As a side note, did anyone who watched the Cubs-Padres game last night notice that Machado's numbers resemble Bill Melton's 1971 numbers. Their batting averages are similar. Machado could catch Melton in home runs. Their on-base percentages are and batting averages are pretty close. Machado, though, leads the league in grounding into double plays with more than twice Melton's total, and although Melton was criticized for striking out too much, Machado has about one-third more strikeouts. And while Melton's home-run total led the American League, Machado doesn't even lead his team in home runs and isn't among the NL's top 20 home run hitters. Machado is a year older than Melton was in 1971. The big difference, apart from salary, of course, was their third-base defense. Still, I would love to get Bill Melton's take on Manny Machado's contract.
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:05 PM
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Still, I would love to get Bill Melton's take on Manny Machado's contract.



And he would say, I wish I was playing now a day.
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:56 PM
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And he would say, I wish I was playing now a day.

It isn't just the money that Machado is getting. Melton never got a fraction of the respect for his offensive game that Machado does, even before his back sidelined him.
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Old 09-11-2019, 04:46 PM
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It isn't just the money that Machado is getting. Melton never got a fraction of the respect for his offensive game that Machado does, even before his back sidelined him.



It didnt help that melton was on some bad Sox teams. Then he gets hurt in 72 but was second fiddle to the MVP. Also the A.L. was dominated by two teams during his career, Baltimore and Oakland.(They had B. Robinson and Sal Bando at 3rd) Finally there is a different hype machine out there now.

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Old 09-11-2019, 08:11 PM
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It didnt help that melton was on some bad Sox teams. Then he gets hurt in 72 but was second fiddle to the MVP. Also the A.L. was dominated by two teams during his career, Baltimore and Oakland.(They had B. Robinson and Sal Bando at 3rd) Finally there is a different hype machine out there now.

... one that greatly overrates players like Machado.

I have been a Bill Melton fan since coming of age as a baseball fan, but I can't believe San Diego media was imaging Bill Melton's offense when there were columns suggesting Manny Machado could become the greatest hitter in Padres history, particularly hyperbolic considering the local talent remembered with a statue outside the ballpark.
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