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Old 07-14-2018, 10:57 PM
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I guess the only thing I would say is that while wins and losses may not matter at the major league level right now, getting outs in individual pitcher-hitter matchups still does matter. In AAA, that is not the case.

For example, if Kopech wanted to focus on throwing more changeups in a particular game, hitters may catch on quickly and wait on it instead of waiting on his blazing fastball. If he throws 90-100 pitches to about 20 batters but only retires about 12 of them, I want those missing innings covered by the Charlotte bullpen, not the major league bullpen.
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Old 07-14-2018, 11:06 PM
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Give Kopech a chance to heal from his loss.
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Old 07-15-2018, 12:31 AM
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Jimmy Lambert is starting to turn heads.

With avalanche of injuries, it's great to have a few lower rated prospects take big strides like Stephens, Guerrero, and now Lambert.

Btw, Lambert's succes is due to dumping the sinker for a standard 4 seam and the same for dumping the slider for the curveball.

Totally against the antiquated principals of Don Cooper.

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Old 07-15-2018, 01:25 AM
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The same source as this one?



"Take it for what it's worth" Lip, please lose this source.

BTW, my post 45 min before yours, included a tweet from an actual source giving the all clear on Hansen.
It was the same one Love and remember as I posted in the original comment it was UNCONFIRMED at the time. My person said they were hearing it was a forearm issue again. This person is very close to the organization on a day to day basis. No one is right 100% of the time especially when they told me it was unconfirmed.

I saw your tweet and while I take it for what it said, it also didn't provide any details. Like if he was checked out medically, if he is in fact having some issues still...things along those lines.

Let's hope your guy is right shall we?
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Old 07-15-2018, 01:27 AM
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And he should not be promoted until it “is there.” And I mean both the slider and the changeup. If that means he repeats AAA in 2019, then so be it. Not breaking camp with the major league team in 2019 does not make Kopech a bust, nor is it automatically a setback. He still has a full slate of minor league options.

Not that it was the sole contributor to his struggles, but how did it work out for Carson Fulmer when he was promoted while his off-speed pitches were still “works in progress?”

BTW LoveYourSuit, I am not in any way suggesting that you believe those things or disbelieve them. I only quoted your post as a prompt for my own little rant.
Agreed. If he isn't really ready, he stays in Charlotte and can keep learning his craft.
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Old 07-15-2018, 05:23 AM
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I'd agree that Kopech should not be promoted until he has a repertoire of pitches that he has mastered.If that means he stays down all of 2019 so be it.



I am as interested in whether Kopech can become a pitcher as I am with him approaching his job as a professional.
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Old 07-15-2018, 11:40 AM
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I'd agree that Kopech should not be promoted until he has a repertoire of pitches that he has mastered.If that means he stays down all of 2019 so be it.



I am as interested in whether Kopech can become a pitcher as I am with him approaching his job as a professional.
What gives you the impression he doesn't take this seriously?
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Old 07-15-2018, 04:36 PM
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Rutherford 3 for 3 last night with 2 triples.

Also, Steele Walker made his professional debut with the Arizona Summer League team. He and Nick Madrigal combined to go 0 for 5 with Walker getting a walk. Bustwatch?
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Old 07-15-2018, 05:30 PM
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Old 07-15-2018, 06:29 PM
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What gives you the impression he doesn't take this seriously?

I said nothing about Kopech not being serious. He needs to temper his expectations and work on his secondary pitches. He needs to become a professional.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:54 PM
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I said nothing about Kopech not being serious. He needs to temper his expectations and work on his secondary pitches. He needs to become a professional.
I think it’s just confusing what you meant by “become a professional.” If you mean that he needs to be come a more well rounded pitcher than just someone who relies on his fastball, I think most would be in agreement. If you mean that he needs to become a more mature person off the field, that’s where you’ve lost me, because I haven’t heard anything about this being a concern for him other than the fight he got in a couple years ago. I don’t understand at all what you mean by tempering his expectations. Confidence is a good thing.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:54 PM
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Rutherford 3 for 3 last night with 2 triples.

Also, Steele Walker made his professional debut with the Arizona Summer League team. He and Nick Madrigal combined to go 0 for 5 with Walker getting a walk. Bustwatch?
Isn't Madrigal's BABIP around .100 right now? Has he struck out?

https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.asp...39&position=2B

The answer is, yep and no respectively.

He has an eye.
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Old 07-15-2018, 10:05 PM
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***** on Kopech and not being professional. Have you seen this kids off season workout program? He is a young kid, but his work ethic is insane.
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Old 07-15-2018, 10:15 PM
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Isn't Madrigal's BABIP around .100 right now? Has he struck out?

https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.asp...39&position=2B

The answer is, yep and no respectively.

He has an eye.
Yeah, some guys need a little extra time to transition to wood bats.
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Old 07-15-2018, 11:20 PM
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Yeah, some guys need a little extra time to transition to wood bats.
Pretty sure I remmeber reading he's used wood bats before in the...Cape Cod league, I think it was. Either way, small smaple size, coming back from injury and better competition are working against him. We shouldn't be worried yet.
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