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Old 10-04-2017, 10:46 AM
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Default 2017/2018 White Sox off-season thread

I thought I'd start this thread with this bit of news. Joe McEwing will interview for the Tigers open manager position. Link here.
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Old 10-04-2017, 12:52 PM
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Sox also re-signed Ynoa to a minor league deal.

Well...SOMEONE has to pitch, assuming he even makes the team.
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Old 10-04-2017, 01:08 PM
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Sox made a number of roster moves Monday to fill out the 40-man
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10/2/17 Chicago White Sox activated RHP Jake Petricka from the 10-day disabled list.
10/2/17 Chicago White Sox activated RHP Nate Jones from the 10-day disabled list.
10/2/17 Chicago White Sox activated LHP Carlos Rodon from the 10-day disabled list.
10/2/17 Chicago White Sox activated CF Leury Garcia from the 10-day disabled list.
10/2/17 Chicago White Sox recalled RHP Brad Goldberg from Charlotte Knights.
10/2/17 Chicago White Sox recalled OF Ryan Cordell from Charlotte Knights.
10/2/17 Chicago White Sox recalled RHP Tyler Danish from Charlotte Knights.
10/2/17 Chicago White Sox recalled CF Jacob May from Charlotte Knights.
The interesting one to me is activating Rodon from the 10-day disabled list. They left Soto, Putnam, and Tilson on the 60-day and it would seem like Rodon is an obvious candidate for the 60-day to free up a slot on the 40-man ahead of the Rule 5 draft. Perhaps they'll do that later. Also interesting that neither Tilson or Putnam was activated even though Tilson has been "cleared for baseball activities" in Arizona.
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Old 10-04-2017, 01:27 PM
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If i'm not mistaken, there is no "DL" during the offseason. Soto was signed to a 1 year deal so he won't take up a roster space. Once Tilson and Putnum come off the dl, they will take the remaining 2 roster spots, leaving the Sox with a full 40 man roster.
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Old 10-04-2017, 02:39 PM
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If i'm not mistaken, there is no "DL" during the offseason. Soto was signed to a 1 year deal so he won't take up a roster space. Once Tilson and Putnum come off the dl, they will take the remaining 2 roster spots, leaving the Sox with a full 40 man roster.
Ok, I figured there was some intricacy to the roster rules I didn't know. But why did they do it with some of the guys but not others?
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:24 PM
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Ok, I figured there was some intricacy to the roster rules I didn't know. But why did they do it with some of the guys but not others?
Maybe the White Sox didn't actually have to formally do anything with the recalls and activations from the 10-day dl. Players on the 60-day dl do not count against the 40 man roster and a corresponding roster move would need to be made if a team had a full 40-man roster. The 60-day dl may not expire until the off-season officially begins the day after the world series ends.
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Old 10-04-2017, 01:35 PM
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Sox also re-signed Ynoa to a minor league deal.

Well...SOMEONE has to pitch, assuming he even makes the team.
Why-noa?
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Old 10-04-2017, 02:42 PM
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Why-noa?
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:51 PM
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Here is a decent quick take on why the jury on Avi is still out.

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/i-s...visail-garcia/
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Old 11-11-2017, 09:26 AM
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Here is a decent quick take on why the jury on Avi is still out.

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/i-s...visail-garcia/
Interesting article that left me with questions. Was his BABIP higher than what could be expected for someone batting .330? Are BABIPS higher in this era when high strike out totals aren't looked at as a liability? The article stated that Avi might be expected to have a higher BABIP than normal because he hits lots of ground balls. If that's true then consider me educated because I assumed that guys who hit hard line drives would have the higher total. That also gives a reason why a big strapping lad like Avi has modest home run totals. Hopefully last season won't be a mirage for Avi as his early returns in Detroit and with the Sox showed great promise. Perhaps TheVulture was correct, injuries set him back for several years. I'm hopeful but not convinced that this past season showed us the real Avi.
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Old 11-11-2017, 11:38 AM
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Here is a decent quick take on why the jury on Avi is still out.

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/i-s...visail-garcia/
I think that to some degree the jury is still out on Avi too. You want to see more than one year from a guy particularly after several mediocre years. So I have no problem with the general conclusion.

However... I am going to have to disagree with a couple things said in the article.

One reason Avi hit better was that he was much better at laying off bad pitches. He still has plenty of room to improve but he improved enough to ensure that he ended up swinging at more strikes. His results improved accordingly.

Second, the guy says he became pull happy and that a shift would negate his effectiveness. This one is flat out wrong. One of the reason Avi hit so well was that he was taking outside pitches to RF. He looked like Konerko in his best years poking the outside pitch past the second baseman. Radical shift on Avi and he'll have a field day unless you do nothing but pitch inside.

Third, nothing in the article about the contribution Avi's exit velocity makes on his BABIP. Yes, he's a ground ball hitter and I do not expect to see his power numbers increase substantially until he changes that but he gets away with hitting so many ground balls because he hits them as hard as power hitters hit fly balls with the result that they get through the infield before the infielder can flag them down.

Avi's hitting last year was not just good luck. He made very real and noticeable improvements that lead to those better results. I still want to see that he can sustain those lessons learned but I believe he can and will as long as he stays focused on the field.
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I think that to some degree the jury is still out on Avi too. You want to see more than one year from a guy particularly after several mediocre years. So I have no problem with the general conclusion.

However... I am going to have to disagree with a couple things said in the article.

One reason Avi hit better was that he was much better at laying off bad pitches. He still has plenty of room to improve but he improved enough to ensure that he ended up swinging at more strikes. His results improved accordingly.

Second, the guy says he became pull happy and that a shift would negate his effectiveness. This one is flat out wrong. One of the reason Avi hit so well was that he was taking outside pitches to RF. He looked like Konerko in his best years poking the outside pitch past the second baseman. Radical shift on Avi and he'll have a field day unless you do nothing but pitch inside.

Third, nothing in the article about the contribution Avi's exit velocity makes on his BABIP. Yes, he's a ground ball hitter and I do not expect to see his power numbers increase substantially until he changes that but he gets away with hitting so many ground balls because he hits them as hard as power hitters hit fly balls with the result that they get through the infield before the infielder can flag them down.

Avi's hitting last year was not just good luck. He made very real and noticeable improvements that lead to those better results. I still want to see that he can sustain those lessons learned but I believe he can and will as long as he stays focused on the field.
He also beats out WAY more groundballs on the infield than most players do because of his speed and hustle. No free outs when Avi puts wood on the ball unless he pops it up. That can actually contribute to more errors or at least stress on the defense and reduces the number of GIDP he hits into.
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