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Old 07-31-2017, 05:08 PM
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Sorry, there is no official talk about this, but thought it would be interesting to gauge your thoughts. If they ever think about rebuilding (and with young stadiums going bye-bye...who knows), where would you like it to be located?

For me - and I know many others here - I'm keen on the south Loop area. Plenty of good parcels to choose from, with excellent transit access. Even better, close proximity to before and after-game destinations. Would also be surreal to have the Sears (always) Tower loom above it in the outfield - would make the view at PNC in Pitt tiny in comparison.

Would you be happy just to rebuild in Bridgeport - or where else?
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:12 PM
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With over a decade under the current lease, its impossible to know what will be a desirable location at that time.
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:21 PM
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The city and state are broke, who would pay for a new stadium?
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:21 PM
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Best move for all concerned would be a swap with the Bears. Sox park is perfectly located/set up for football. Next to the highway, lots of parking around for tailgating, etc, convenient train, and the adjacent land isn't highly valuable for parkland/lakefront (so can be left for parking/tailgating).

Meanwhile, Soldier can be reconfigured for use as a baseball stadium with some parking left but some reclaimed for lakefront park. You can have city views n the background, or if the sunset in batters eyes is a concern, a fantastic lake view. Summer nights people walk over from downtown, and then there's the south loop bar/restaurant scene.
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:25 PM
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Meanwhile, Soldier can be reconfigured for use as a baseball stadium with some parking left but some reclaimed for lakefront park. You can have city views n the background, or if the sunset in batters eyes is a concern, a fantastic lake view. Summer nights people walk over from downtown, and then there's the south loop bar/restaurant scene.
No it can't be.

Plus- just from my experience of attending concerts or Bears games- access to/from Soldier Field is horrible.
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Old 08-01-2017, 12:40 PM
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No it can't be.

Plus- just from my experience of attending concerts or Bears games- access to/from Soldier Field is horrible.
That location would be worse for driving into games, but far far better for attendance and walkup from the Loop. That's the driving force behind my suggestion (and my own personal preference since I live downtown).

A downtown ballpark along the lakefront walkable from the Loop is IMO a huge way to improve the experience and attendance, which translates into payroll.
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:12 PM
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That location would be worse for driving into games, but far far better for attendance and walkup from the Loop. That's the driving force behind my suggestion (and my own personal preference since I live downtown).

A downtown ballpark along the lakefront walkable from the Loop is IMO a huge way to improve the experience and attendance, which translates into payroll.
The "Loop market" is very small- not really going to help with attendance.

And I don't see ANY way that Soldier Field could be converted to a baseball venue....it's not really that great of a football venue..but that's a whole different discussion.
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Old 08-05-2017, 01:46 PM
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Best move for all concerned would be a swap with the Bears. Sox park is perfectly located/set up for football. Next to the highway, lots of parking around for tailgating, etc, convenient train, and the adjacent land isn't highly valuable for parkland/lakefront (so can be left for parking/tailgating).

Meanwhile, Soldier can be reconfigured for use as a baseball stadium with some parking left but some reclaimed for lakefront park. You can have city views n the background, or if the sunset in batters eyes is a concern, a fantastic lake view. Summer nights people walk over from downtown, and then there's the south loop bar/restaurant scene.
Being that close to the lake would create some really interesting ballgames.

I haven't read this entire thread, but I don't see the Sox building a new stadium elsewhere in Chicago when this lease is up. I would expect them to either renew the lease or, heaven forbid, move to a different city. I don't think MLB would be keen on the latter, especially if this rebuild results in some good baseball and/or a Red Line World Series...So I think moving is less likely. But I don't think there's anything wrong with the current ballpark, and there probably won't be anything wrong with it in 10 years either-- it will only be 36 years old, and the style won't have changed much (since it hasn't since the mid-90s, and this part has been retro-fitted to match that aesthetic).
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Old 08-05-2017, 07:00 PM
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Being that close to the lake would create some really interesting ballgames.

I haven't read this entire thread, but I don't see the Sox building a new stadium elsewhere in Chicago when this lease is up. I would expect them to either renew the lease or, heaven forbid, move to a different city. I don't think MLB would be keen on the latter, especially if this rebuild results in some good baseball and/or a Red Line World Series...So I think moving is less likely. But I don't think there's anything wrong with the current ballpark, and there probably won't be anything wrong with it in 10 years either-- it will only be 36 years old, and the style won't have changed much (since it hasn't since the mid-90s, and this part has been retro-fitted to match that aesthetic).
The thing that makes one wonder about a new ballpark, is that the lease agreement states that there will be no required upgrades for the last 3 years. Why would you think that is?
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Old 08-05-2017, 07:15 PM
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The thing that makes one wonder about a new ballpark, is that the lease agreement states that there will be no required upgrades for the last 3 years. Why would you think that is?
Are you talking about general maintenance or an upgrade?

As far as any upgrages, I honestly don't think there is anything else they could do or would do to the park. It's not like they are going to build an upper deck. That could be why that's in the contract...there's nothing more to be done.
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Old 08-05-2017, 07:29 PM
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The thing that makes one wonder about a new ballpark, is that the lease agreement states that there will be no required upgrades for the last 3 years. Why would you think that is?
It's very possible that when the team and the State signed that lease, they were guessing that in 10 years or whatever that the team would want a new ballpark. However, that guess is in no way binding on anybody. When we get to that point, whoever is in charge of the team and the State (very possibly totally different people on both sides) may well decide that it's actually not time for a new ballpark and revise and/or extend the lease. It's not like there's some line in the lease that says that the site can't be used for baseball after a specific date or something (and even if that WERE the case, never say never...)
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:23 PM
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Interesting idea. For me, the perfect location would be either by McCormack place or if we're dreaming, add on a peninsula at north end of grant park. I always said the 2 biggest mistakes in building this stadium was:
1. Not rotating the stadium 90 degrees counterclockwise for a view of the city
2. Blue seats (fixed)
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:27 PM
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Interesting idea. For me, the perfect location would be either by McCormack place or if we're dreaming, add on a peninsula at north end of grant park. I always said the 2 biggest mistakes in building this stadium was:
1. Not rotating the stadium 90 degrees counterclockwise for a view of the city
2. Blue seats (fixed)
#3. Building one too many levels of luxury suites (so many sit empty) which caused the upper deck to be too high.
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:29 PM
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:31 PM
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