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Old 08-06-2012, 06:16 PM
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Matt Garza headed to the disabled list with triceps injury


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Old 08-06-2012, 06:26 PM
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There goes that trade value. That will be interesting to see what they do this offseason.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:30 PM
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Even though nothing has been said, he's got to be done for the year I imagine. That club is going nowhere.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:33 PM
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Well, that'll put the Cubs' season in the crapper.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:36 PM
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Well, that'll put the Cubs' season in the crapper.
I really thought they were going to go on a run here in August with Vitters and Jackson up.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:37 PM
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There goes that trade value. That will be interesting to see what they do this offseason.
Which the Cubs consistently over-estimated for this 3-4 starter.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:31 PM
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Tribune says he might be done for the year:

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Old 08-07-2012, 07:55 AM
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This will be a race right down to the wire, possibly down to the final game....between the lovables and the Stros
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:59 AM
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This will be a race right down to the wire, possibly down to the final game....between the lovables and the Stros
The Cubs are bad but the Astros are taking bad to a whole other level right now. They're in '62 Mets territory.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:04 AM
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The Cubs are bad but the Astros are taking bad to a whole other level right now. They're in '62 Mets territory.
Yeah, I think the Astros' 8 1/2 game lead for the #1 overall pick is looking pretty insurmountable right now.

FWIW, they are 4-31 in their last 35 games. That's almost incomprehensible.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:19 AM
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The Cubs are bad but the Astros are taking bad to a whole other level right now. They're in '62 Mets territory.

Absolutely, but its amazing that according to cub fans, these dismal days are growing pains and that they are on the 4 yr plan and that Theo and Company are the ones that will lead them to the promised land. Seems like they said that about Dallas Green....and Dusty.....and Lou.....and McFail....
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:43 AM
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Astros are starting a mediocre AAA team, with only 1 ML player as starter. They are a little better off in pitching. Sox cast-off Lucas Harrel has had a nice year for them.
The best prospects they got in these trades came from the Hunter Pence deal and they were A and AA players when acquired and haven't seen the ML club.
Getting anything at all for Carlos Lee was a feat of legerdemain and they actually got a decent one for him.

Is it time for a draft lottery?
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:21 AM
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Everything you need to know about the Astros:

http://deadspin.com/5932452/the-nati...se-like-morons
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:07 AM
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Absolutely, but its amazing that according to cub fans, these dismal days are growing pains and that they are on the 4 yr plan and that Theo and Company are the ones that will lead them to the promised land. Seems like they said that about Dallas Green....and Dusty.....and Lou.....and McFail....
That's what cracks me up. All the Cubs fans accepting before this season even started that they would be bad, but then confidently stating that 2013 would be a little better, and by 2014, they will be competing on a regular basis from there on out, as if it's guaranteed. Theo Epstein being there guarantees multiple world championships within the next couple of years. Certain sports radio talk personalities have also taken up this banner. Theo Epstein is tearing it down, and rebuilding from the ground up. Big Boy Baseball. With his perfect, flawless drafts and trades, he will build an eventual World Series champion that will be a dynasty for years to come. These people never cease to amaze me with their stupidity. Look how everyone was tripping over themselves to laud Epstein and Hoyer on the trades they made this week for Dempster and the other players they unloaded. They got some guys who are in A ball. Maybe they will pay off, maybe they won't. But they are in A ball. Yet, to Cub fans and certain members of the electronic and print media, these guys are going to pay HUGE dividends in the coming years, Theo is awesome !
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:03 PM
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Sunday on Instant Replay I'm was amazed by the comment from Dan Roan on WGN-TV and more importantly the way he said it.

When talking about the Cubs bringing up more prospects he said, "what's another five years..."

But what grabbed me was it almost sounded sarcastic to my ears. Like he was getting disgusted with the entire approach.

Not saying that's the case to be sure but that's how it sounded to me.

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