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And now, we've got Cubs fans mad because Harper allegedly cheated to win the Home Run Derby. His father apparently broke the rule that his father threw a pitch or pitches before a ball or balls landed. Sour grapes all-around.
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And now, we've got Cubs fans mad because Harper allegedly cheated to win the Home Run Derby. His father apparently broke the rule that his father threw a pitch or pitches before a ball or balls landed. Sour grapes all-around.
Todd Frazier lost to Stanton two years ago because of the same issue. Pretty sure I posted a throwaway comment here about it, but I don't recall any discussion anywhere else. If I recall, Frazier also got ripped off because one of the kids in the outfield jumped up and robbed a homer over the short San Diego wall. Frazier wasn't complaining, and hopefully Schwarber wasn't either. This thing was booked for Harper to get the win in his own park last night. Baseball kinda needs moments like that, and I'm ok with that.
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This thing was booked for Harper to get the win in his own park last night. Baseball kinda needs moments like that, and I'm ok with that.
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http://m.mlb.com/player/547180/bryce-harper


http://m.mlb.com/player/656941/kyle-schwarber


A .214 guy, who loafs on the base paths, beats a defensively challenged sub .250 guy in a HR derby. With allegations of cheating to boot.

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Is batting average still a thing outside of fantasy leagues that havenít moved off the old standard categories yet?
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This is one of the most talented eras of baseball in history right now. You have a generational talent in Mike Trout leading the way.

Most guys have figured out the derby can mess with their swings and forego it. That doesn't make it a bad era of baseball.

This is a GREAT era.
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Is batting average still a thing outside of fantasy leagues that haven’t moved off the old standard categories yet?
It’s still useful in some cases. In fact, since his name was brought up, let’s examine how it’s useful in Harper’s case.

Harper is hitting .214, 63 points below his career average. His BABIP is .226, 78 points lower than his career average.

His power, however, has not been affected; his ISO of .254 actually is 21 points higher than his career average. Nor has his plate discipline been affected; his 63-point drop in batting average has led to only a 19-point drop in OBP (.365 in 2018 vs. .384 for his career).

Taking those numbers in context, it would appear that Harper is due for a surge at some point, and he will start getting back some of those precious singles that he’s been missing.
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Itís still useful in some cases. In fact, since his name was brought up, letís examine how itís useful in Harperís case.

Harper is hitting .214, 63 points below his career average. His BABIP is .226, 78 points lower than his career average.

His power, however, has not been affected; his ISO of .254 actually is 21 points higher than his career average. Nor has his plate discipline been affected; his 63-point drop in batting average has led to only a 19-point drop in OBP (.365 in 2018 vs. .384 for his career).

Taking those numbers in context, it would appear that Harper is due for a surge at some point, and he will start getting back some of those precious singles that heís been missing.
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It’s still useful in some cases. In fact, since his name was brought up, let’s examine how it’s useful in Harper’s case.

Harper is hitting .214, 63 points below his career average. His BABIP is .226, 78 points lower than his career average.

His power, however, has not been affected; his ISO of .254 actually is 21 points higher than his career average. Nor has his plate discipline been affected; his 63-point drop in batting average has led to only a 19-point drop in OBP (.365 in 2018 vs. .384 for his career).

Taking those numbers in context, it would appear that Harper is due for a surge at some point, and he will start getting back some of those precious singles that he’s been missing.
Harper has an agent crying about a shift: "Shifting is grandly discriminatory in the game against power left-handed hitters" Boras said. “You’re affecting baseball on many, many levels in the negative way."

Because Harper is too hardheaded or lacks the skill to keep the defense honest baseball is being impacted negatively?

"Boras argued that with batting deficiencies and injury risk for fielders playing out of position, a rule change should be in order. Two infielders should have to stay on the left field side of second base"

Pretty thin...

Mr. Boras: Your client's lack of hustle on the base paths, the sliding emphasis on fundamentals and escalating salaries are affecting baseball in negative ways.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...urting-harper/

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Iím not going to blame Harper for his agentís verbal diarrhea.
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