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Old 06-23-2019, 06:35 PM
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Default *Official* “One Outta Three Ain’t Good” 6/23/19 Postgame Thread

I guess it’s still to early to officially white-flag it for 2019 and admit that it’s a development season, but that moment shouldn’t be too far off. This series exposed some definite holes on this team (not nearly enough power in the everyday lineup, not nearly enough on-base ability in the everyday lineup, a rotation in disarray). It also showed that the Rangers, like the Rays and Red Sox, are a better team than us. Two more series like this against the Red Sox and Twins should be enough to eliminate the delusion of Wild Card contention, regardless of what we do against the Tigers afterward.
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Old 06-23-2019, 06:51 PM
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It's obviously better than last year, and the team would be in a better spot without all the damn injuries to the arms. That said,yes, still way to much dead weight on this roster. You can send Alonso out of here sometime in the next ten minutes would be fine. And he can take Desapgne, or however the hell you spell it, with him.

I was at the first two games of this series, and fellas, this bunch with help for sure, can be knocking on the door of a wild-card next year. The rotation is the first thing I would fix, a legit proven ace to lead the young bucks is needed. If Despagnine/Banuelos/Covey are still part of the rotation come next spring then we're ****ed.

Another bopper in the middle of the lineup, a legit lead-off man with a nice high OBP please, and now we're talking. Up to the brain trust to figure out the right guys to get.
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Old 06-23-2019, 06:54 PM
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It would be nice if Anderson cut down on the errors. Seven out of the fifteen are throwing errors.
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Old 06-23-2019, 06:56 PM
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It would be nice if Anderson cut down on the errors. Seven out of the fifteen are throwing errors.
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Old 06-23-2019, 07:06 PM
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The only game the Sox won in this series was on a squeeze bunt set up by Jimenez going from first to third on a single, but all three games were winnable. Saturday, the Rangers facing a deficit, greeted Marshall like he was still pitching for Cleveland or Seattle and held on for a one-run win.

Today, the Sox had runners on second and third with one out, down by just a run after scoring two and struck out twice to close out the inning. The key was Alonso not at least tying the game with a productive out. Still, if Renteria was going to bring in Herrera to pitch the eighth with a tie or protecting a one-run lead, the game was probably lost anyway.
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Old 06-23-2019, 07:38 PM
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It is absolutely embarrassing that the Sox trot out Nova, Despaigne, and Reynaldo regularly. It is also embarrassing that Yonder has a job right now.
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Old 06-23-2019, 07:58 PM
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It is absolutely embarrassing that the Sox trot out Nova, Despaigne, and Reynaldo regularly. It is also embarrassing that Yonder has a job right now.
Your absolutely correct! After Giolito there’s not much to look forward to! I long for the day when the White Sox had excellent pitching!
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Old 06-23-2019, 07:58 PM
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It is absolutely embarrassing that the Sox trot out Nova, Despaigne, and Reynaldo regularly. It is also embarrassing that Yonder has a job right now.
This is why I'm so optimistic about the future. They're close to .500 with 1 1/2 starting pitchers (Lopez is the 1/2). The other 3 slots are taken by players who won't be around for long, but this is a learning year for the young position players (and a few relievers), so I don't sweat the daily results.

They're getting pretty close offensively (we know where the holes are and help is on the way), so this off season the Sox need to spend a whole bunch of that money they saved by not signing Machado by going out into free agency and getting 2 front-line starters that will be around for 3 to 5 years each. They need some veteran starters with experience to get to the next level.
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Old 06-23-2019, 08:33 PM
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It is absolutely embarrassing that the Sox trot out Nova, Despaigne, and Reynaldo regularly. It is also embarrassing that Yonder has a job right now.
None of these things embarrass me, because the White Sox are quite open about the fact that they are rebuilding, and these are the kinds of filler that a rebuilding team has. If they were trying to patch together a contender with these players, yes, that would be highly embarrassing.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:05 PM
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This is why I'm so optimistic about the future. They're close to .500 with 1 1/2 starting pitchers (Lopez is the 1/2). The other 3 slots are taken by players who won't be around for long, but this is a learning year for the young position players (and a few relievers), so I don't sweat the daily results.

They're getting pretty close offensively (we know where the holes are and help is on the way), so this off season the Sox need to spend a whole bunch of that money they saved by not signing Machado by going out into free agency and getting 2 front-line starters that will be around for 3 to 5 years each. They need some veteran starters with experience to get to the next level.
There are not 2 front-line starters to be had in free agency. Most of the premium talent has been locked up with extensions. The free agency part of this equation was “Machado or bust,” and we busted.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:20 PM
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There are not 2 front-line starters to be had in free agency. Most of the premium talent has been locked up with extensions. The free agency part of this equation was “Machado or bust,” and we busted.
They don't need Machado. They need pitching.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:57 PM
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There are not 2 front-line starters to be had in free agency. Most of the premium talent has been locked up with extensions. The free agency part of this equation was “Machado or bust,” and we busted.

What you are doing is called making the perfect the enemy of the good. Doesn't matter if there are any "front-line starters" available. There are several starting pitchers, such as James Shields, who are better than any of our non-Giolito starters. You can't compete for a Wild Card spot if you restrict yourself to the perfect.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:02 PM
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They don't need Machado. They need pitching.
There are no top-tier pitchers to be signed. It’s Gerritt Cole and a whole bunch of big-time gambles. We’re better off just rehabbing our own Tommy John patients and hoping they can help in 2021.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:12 PM
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There are no top-tier pitchers to be signed. It’s Gerritt Cole and a whole bunch of big-time gambles. We’re better off just rehabbing our own Tommy John patients and hoping they can help in 2021.
The point is, if they had spent $250 million on Machado (or whatever the amount really was), that would have limited what they would be able to spend in other areas going forward, knowing how the Sox operate under the present management. Signing Machado as a free agent was not going to get the Sox to the playoffs. I'm glad the way things worked out and they didn't get him. I'll take Moncada at 3B for the next 10 years.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:14 PM
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I'm sick of the "ready to win" year repeatedly getting pushed back. How much longer do we have to say "not this year"? If not next year, when? And what will convince you that it's the year?
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