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Old 12-01-2017, 07:29 PM
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The Sox are not $7.5 million away from getting hit with the luxury tax. Not sure what people think the opportunity cost here is.
What need does he fill?
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:00 PM
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Flipping a catcher owed 10M+ is bit more difficult than a reliefer. Of course there isnt much of a downside, shouldnt change anything for the Sox future. I just would have liked them to spend in a different way.
Just know that you're not the only one who doesn't understand this move.

As for the spelling, since "ll" in Spanish is pronounced like "y," it is common for non-Spanish names used by Spanish -speaking people to have one "l" removed to preserve the pronunciation. Example: Gabriella becomes Gabriela.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:29 PM
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Of course hes an upgrade over Smith but at 10X Smiths salary? My point is the Sox are going nowhere in the next 2 years and he wont be a easy flip. Use the money elsewhere, this isnt a organization where money is no object.
Can never evaluate a player like that. Teams pay millions of extra dollars for one or two WAR points per year. This is not an expensive contract. It is short. It's just fine. If Smith is that good, he'll steal the job anyway and they can eat the money and not worry about it. Team has plenty of payroll to burn.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:22 PM
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Can never evaluate a player like that. Teams pay millions of extra dollars for one or two WAR points per year. This is not an expensive contract. It is short. It's just fine. If Smith is that good, he'll steal the job anyway and they can eat the money and not worry about it. Team has plenty of payroll to burn.

This organization doesnt burn money.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:24 PM
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This organization doesnt burn money.
So that means it was a good signing?
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:26 PM
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This organization doesnt burn money.
Yeah this move really is going to prevent them from being competitive in the next two years. What were they thinking? Those 15MM could have been the difference in winning it all.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:35 PM
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So that means it was a good signing?
I think the limited resources could have been used more wisely elsewhere.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:38 PM
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Of course there isnt much of a downside, shouldnt change anything for the Sox future. I just would have liked them to spend in a different way.
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Yeah this move really is going to prevent them from being competitive in the next two years. What were they thinking? Those 15MM could have been the difference in winning it all.
I already said that.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:05 PM
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Saw this tweet by Chuck Garfien:

“Best part of the White Sox press release on Welington Castillo: He led all major league catchers by throwing out 44.4 percent (20-45) of attempted baserunners, and ranked second among American League catchers in average and fourth in homers and slugging.”

Seems to me that signing Castillo for $7.5 million is a steal for the Sox.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:13 PM
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I think the limited resources could have been used more wisely elsewhere.
Except that resources aren't limited. The Sox payroll will be down around the bottom of the league even with this signing... this year and next.

As long as they are going to be signing quality veterans then catcher is as good a place as any to start. They still have plenty of $ to go after a few relievers.

Frankly, they have plenty of $ to go after a few relievers, a big name guy like Mike Moustakas, and a CF like Lorenzo Cain... and still have a lower payroll then they've had in years.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:50 PM
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Except that resources aren't limited. The Sox payroll will be down around the bottom of the league even with this signing... this year and next.

As long as they are going to be signing quality veterans then catcher is as good a place as any to start. They still have plenty of $ to go after a few relievers.

Frankly, they have plenty of $ to go after a few relievers, a big name guy like Mike Moustakas, and a CF like Lorenzo Cain... and still have a lower payroll then they've had in years.
I hope you are correct but I got a sneaky suspicion they have a budget to spend only X amount of money and it may be lower that what you expect. This is early in a rebuild, they know they arent going to contend for a couple years, they have what profit they want to make in their mind. They have a good idea what their revenues will be. No reason to spend without a return on investment.
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:37 AM
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Flipping a catcher owed 10M+ is bit more difficult than a reliefer. Of course there isnt much of a downside, shouldnt change anything for the Sox future. I just would have liked them to spend in a different way.
$10 mil is chump change in today's MLB. The move doesn't do anything to hamper the Sox long term, so I can't really see any downside to it. What is the "different way"?
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:46 AM
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I disagree. It should be Wellington. His parents got it wrong.
If they spelled it that way it would be pronounced weh-yeen-ton in Spanish.

I dont know how anyone would could complain about this signing. Fact he signed for same yearly as option he just declined is a good signal for Sox as well.
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Old 12-02-2017, 02:12 AM
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$10 mil is chump change in today's MLB. The move doesn't do anything to hamper the Sox long term, so I can't really see any downside to it. What is the "different way"?
As I have previously stated, I would have used the money for reliefers or higher quality reliefers.
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Old 12-02-2017, 02:16 AM
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You realize this 2017 right? 7.5/yr is a steal for Castillo
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