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Old 01-11-2018, 03:17 PM
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I like this signing.


In 2019, whenever Hansen is ready (letís say June 15 to maximize gain another year of service time), he pushes the worst among Rodon-Giolito-Lopez-Kopech-Fulmer into the bullpen.

Until the team is ready to compete, I would not mind seeing a 6 man rotation to A) Save the young arms B) let things play out on who will stick in the rotation and who moves to the pen.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:37 PM
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Pretty much the way I see it except I think we'll see Kopech in Chicago before Rodon. And I think we have to consider the possibility that Fulmer doesn't last past a month or so in the rotation.
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Until the team is ready to compete, I would not mind seeing a 6 man rotation to A) Save the young arms B) let things play out on who will stick in the rotation and who moves to the pen.
Iím fine with either/both of these scenarios.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:05 PM
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Rondon probably starts at AAA. Yrizarri was only playing at A+ last year so he is more likely the starter at AA (could stay at A+). Far more depth at SS than I can recall in a while.
More likely than not. But Yrizzari actually got 34 plate appearances at AAA in 2015 and did OK. The assignments will tell us a lot about how the Sox rate them.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:06 PM
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MLB network reporting Abreu agrees to a 1-year, 13M deal to avoid arbitration.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:15 PM
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MLB network reporting Abreu agrees to a 1-year, 13M deal to avoid arbitration.
...isn't that less than what he made last year? I know for damn sure that that's almost $5 million less than what he was projected to make.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:31 PM
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...isn't that less than what he made last year? I know for damn sure that that's almost $5 million less than what he was projected to make.
No, he made $10.9 mil last year. He did make $13.3 in 2016, but he opted out of that contract.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:32 PM
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...isn't that less than what he made last year? I know for damn sure that that's almost $5 million less than what he was projected to make.
2014 $7,000,000.00
2015 $8,666,000.00
2016 $13,334,000.00
2017 $10,825,000.00
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Old 01-12-2018, 02:15 PM
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Okay, that explains it. For all intents and purposes, it's still a discount.
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Old 01-12-2018, 02:24 PM
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Okay, that explains it. For all intents and purposes, it's still a discount.
Contrary to the belief by some that "he's just another guy," for the numbers he puts up indeed this is a nice bargain for the Sox.

Which leads me to think if the Sox truly think of him as piece that can stick for the future / rebuild, he's not looking to break the bank on a mega deal. You can probably wipe out these last 2 arbitration years and lock him up on a nice 4-5 year deal.
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Old 01-12-2018, 02:26 PM
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While I don't think of Hahn as a God as many Sox fans do, making a decision on Hahn's future based on W/L record from the past and immediate future knowing quite well what it is that's going on right now would be probably the dumbest move in Chicago Sports history. In fact, I don't think JR and Kenny are this dumb.

Now, make a dumb trade right like dumping prospects for a 1 year rental of Machado .... yes, fire him on the spot.
Yeah, there needs to be a middle ground on Hahn. The idea that he is suddenly a god among men because he managed to trade the top end of the 2016 Sox roster for good prospects is kinda silly. A replacement-level GM could have gotten good value in return for Chris Sale. Hell, you or I could have brokered a good trade for Chris Sale. How hard is it, really, to trade a guy that 29 other teams would love to have on that contract?

The easy part of the rebuild is over. It's what they do from here as far as drafting and developing that will tell the tale on Hahn. We'll see where we are in two years.
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Old 01-12-2018, 02:29 PM
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Always liked Miggy. He battles out there and soaks up some valuable innings. You can pencil him in for about 150-160 innings. Gives you some good outings and some not so good outings but provides some veteran stability in the back of the rotation. Perfect #5 starter.
Agreed. Gonzalez did the role effectively last year. That role is still needed, so it makes sense to ask him back to do it again.

He's not great, but he's still a step above the Shields-Pelfrey-Holland triumvirate of doom.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:13 PM
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Contrary to the belief by some that "he's just another guy," for the numbers he puts up indeed this is a nice bargain for the Sox.
I donít remember anyone ever expressing anything along those lines around here.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:22 PM
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Contrary to the belief by some that "he's just another guy," for the numbers he puts up indeed this is a nice bargain for the Sox.

Which leads me to think if the Sox truly think of him as piece that can stick for the future / rebuild, he's not looking to break the bank on a mega deal. You can probably wipe out these last 2 arbitration years and lock him up on a nice 4-5 year deal.
*Exactly* what I was thinking. I just hope the front office really does see him as a part of the rebuild and contention, because whatever deal he signs will see him produce less toward the end of that deal.

Not everyone can be Jaromir Jagr, sadly. :P
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:34 PM
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Yeah, there needs to be a middle ground on Hahn. The idea that he is suddenly a god among men because he managed to trade the top end of the 2016 Sox roster for good prospects is kinda silly. A replacement-level GM could have gotten good value in return for Chris Sale. Hell, you or I could have brokered a good trade for Chris Sale. How hard is it, really, to trade a guy that 29 other teams would love to have on that contract?

The easy part of the rebuild is over. It's what they do from here as far as drafting and developing that will tell the tale on Hahn. We'll see where we are in two years.
Maybe- but the return he got for Eaton and Quintana was exceptional.
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Maybe- but the return he got for Eaton and Quintana was exceptional.
I'll say now that I am encouraged by what I see from these players the White Sox received in deals for Eaton and Quintana.

I'll wait to see how these players perform at the big league level before saying the return was exceptional.
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