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Old 10-13-2018, 12:21 PM
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We'll up the ante on our Rio sale rumor with another juicy tidbit: As we've shared, could very well be a land play. New rumor suggests Rio could be demolished, site to be developed as (wait for it) Major League Baseball ballpark.

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Old 10-13-2018, 12:58 PM
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We'll up the ante on our Rio sale rumor with another juicy tidbit: As we've shared, could very well be a land play. New rumor suggests Rio could be demolished, site to be developed as (wait for it) Major League Baseball ballpark.

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Maybe the As can join the Raiders in Las Vegas.
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Old 10-13-2018, 01:08 PM
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Maybe the As can join the Raiders in Las Vegas.
There have been some strong rumors of exactly that in the Bay Area. Oakland desperately wants to get out of the Colliseum, but the Giants are blocking their proposal to move to San Jose. So, something else is going to have to give.

Its a seriously ******* move by SF too because SJ was originally considered As territory and they surrendered it to the Giants so the could use it as leverage to bet AT&T park built. Now the Giants are refusing to give it back.
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Old 10-13-2018, 01:20 PM
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The A's are the most popular team in Las Vegas, right?
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Old 10-13-2018, 02:43 PM
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If the A's move again, that little elephant on their uniforms will need to be on a pair of roller skates rather than a baseball.

Philadelphia - Kansas City - Oakland - Vegas?
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Old 10-13-2018, 03:21 PM
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There have been some strong rumors of exactly that in the Bay Area. Oakland desperately wants to get out of the Colliseum, but the Giants are blocking their proposal to move to San Jose. So, something else is going to have to give.

It’s a seriously ******* move by SF too because SJ was originally considered A’s territory and they surrendered it to the Giants so the could use it as leverage to bet AT&T park built. Now the Giants are refusing to give it back.
[Owen Wilson]Wow.[/Owen Wilson]

That almost sounds like the Giants are trying to force the A’s out of the metro area altogether, but trying to do it in a way that they can’t definitively be blamed for it.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:19 PM
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Old 10-13-2018, 09:05 PM
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The Giants paid for their own stadium using the territorial leverage to sell bonds. There was no public financing. It wouldn't have been possible without the Giants securing San Jose as its territory in exchange for Sacramento and the Valley being given to the A's. Conceivably, now that the bonds are paid off, the Giants and A's could negate previous territorial agreements, even if the territories assigned matched realities of their fan bases.


The problem with the Giants allowing the A's to move to San Jose is that San Jose is geographically a part of San Francisco. To drive from Oakland to San Francisco, you have to pay a toll. I could drive on a freeway to get to an A's game from the Valley. I have to pay a toll to drive to a Giants game. My other choices are paying to ride a ferry from Oakland, dropping me off at the ballpark, or riding the BART and from there the Metro or a cab.


Because of geography, the Giants' natural territory flows south down the 101 where there is bridge-free access. Even in Fremont, you have to drive well out of your way to get to San Francisco without crossing a toll bridge.


San Jose may want the A's, and people in San Jose may want a major league baseball team, but it is clearly Giants territory. From a business standpoint, there is no way the Giants should allow any team to locate down the 101 along the only toll-free access to San Francisco.


It wasn't that long ago that long ago that the A's seemed to be on the verge of driving the Giants out of San Francisco. The Giants even had an agreement to move to Florida before the group formed with an idea to build a stadium with private funds to keep it in the city. This was a group of businessmen who gambled on a losing franchise at considerable risk.


As many games as the A's won this year, as poorly as the Giants played this year, at one point setting a San Francisco record for consecutive losses, the Giants continued to outdraw the A's by about 2 to 1.


There are reasons other than the ballpark why A's attendance is bad. Oakland is the less popular team in the Bay Area because they are in a constant state of rebuild. Even when the A's are winning, they are trading away popular players. At any A's game, you will see more jerseys in the stands bearing the names of traded players than current ones. They might do just as well in Sacramento as Oakland. This year the team has a billboard featuring your likeness at the BART Coliseum station. Next year, you are the player traded for those promising minor leaguers.


Change the front office philosophy and move to Sacramento, and you might build a solid fan base.


Las Vegas, though, is a disaster waiting to happen for any major league team that makes the mistake of moving there.
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Old 10-15-2018, 01:53 PM
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I believe the A's to San Jose ship sailed a while ago and they had moved on to an Oakland site near Laney College. But that plan reached a dead end last year:
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/artic...y-12409978.php

Last I heard the team was still looking at Oakland sites for a new ballpark, specifically the existing Coliseum site and Howard Terminal. I have no idea whether a new park at either site would be a success for the franchise or not.

As far as Vegas goes, I agree that it's a disaster waiting to happen for whatever MLB team moves there. Back in the 1980s, Florida was hailed as a gold mine-in-waiting for MLB. So, popular vacation spots with a growing population doesn't equate to MLB gold. I also don't think the viability of an NHL or NFL franchise is a good indicator of a market's ability to support a MLB team. 81 home games is a lot of tickets to sell.
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Old 10-15-2018, 05:47 PM
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Bay Area residents have been moving to Vegas for the last 15 years, then the Raiders and hopefully the A's.



I'm totally fine with the Las Vegas A's. I have zero interest in seeing the Sox play in Oakland but I have a lot of interest in seeing the Sox play in Vegas.
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Old 10-15-2018, 05:49 PM
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I'm totally fine with the Las Vegas A's. I have zero interest in seeing the Sox play in Oakland but I have a lot of interest in seeing the Sox play in Vegas.
Im the exact opposite. I think the Bay Area is terrific. I think Las Vegas sucks.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:37 PM
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Im the exact opposite. I think the Bay Area is terrific. I think Las Vegas sucks.
West Bay is pretty awesome, but East Bay isn't all that great. It's trending that direction as people get priced out of the West Bay, but it's gonna take some time for it to get there and when it does it's going to be just as expensive to live there.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE San Jose, but it's crazy as all **** expensive to live here.
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Old 10-17-2018, 03:01 PM
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Having relocated to Vegas in the spring this is a hot topic of conversation right now. The city has ended their affiliation with the Mets aaa team the 51s (for Area 51 and are building a brand new ball park in the affluent Summerlin neighborhood which sits about 15 minutes west of the strip.

With the nhl already here and the nfl coming in 20 - I feel like its a matter of time before investors spring for an mlb franchise. For selfish purposes (and for a chance to see our WhiteSox semi regularly when theyd come out west) Id love for it to happen. I tend to agree with the sentiments above regarding it being a poor business decision. It will be interesting to see what transpires.
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Old 10-17-2018, 03:46 PM
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Having relocated to Vegas in the spring this is a hot topic of conversation right now. The city has ended their affiliation with the Mets aaa team the 51s (for Area 51 and are building a brand new ball park in the affluent Summerlin neighborhood which sits about 15 minutes west of the strip.

With the nhl already here and the nfl coming in 20 - I feel like its a matter of time before investors spring for an mlb franchise. For selfish purposes (and for a chance to see our WhiteSox semi regularly when theyd come out west) Id love for it to happen. I tend to agree with the sentiments above regarding it being a poor business decision. It will be interesting to see what transpires.
I assume that's a domed stadium as there is no way they can play outdoor baseball in the summer there.
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Old 10-17-2018, 04:58 PM
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I assume that's a domed stadium as there is no way they can play outdoor baseball in the summer there.
the minor league team has played there for years during the summer.
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