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Old 02-11-2018, 05:56 AM
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Glad they signed him. Now we can stop all this nonsense about them signing Bryce Harper. They are out of $$$ and are out of top prospects.

Why are they out of money?
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:48 AM
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No they are not out of money, but with Bryant, Contreras, Baez, and Kendrick all coming up soon for free agency they need money to sign them
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:09 AM
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I think the position players are still going to have a hard time getting contracts. If Frazier is worth 2/17, is Moustakas really worth any more.
The pitchers will start getting signed, though.
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Old 02-11-2018, 03:32 PM
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Why are they out of money?
They aren't. Signing Darvish won't have any affect on how much money the Cubs offer to Harper next offseason. I just hope someone can offer more or he chooses to go elsewhere.
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Old 02-11-2018, 03:39 PM
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They aren't. Signing Darvish won't have any affect on how much money the Cubs offer to Harper next offseason. I just hope someone can offer more or he chooses to go elsewhere.
The Cubs have $140M tied up in ten players going into next off-season; Bryant, Hendricks and Russell will all be arbitration eligible too. I don't see anyway they can do that and stay under the luxury tax threshold.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:23 PM
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How do you give a guy $126M on February 10th, a week before Spring Training starts? That should tell you if it was a fiscally sound decision. The Cubs got no deal on this, but I don't see anyone taking them to task in the media. You give a guy $150M (with incentives) during the bidding war in early December, not a week before Spring Training though. Not my money, but this has potential to blow up.
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:29 PM
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How do you give a guy $126M on February 10th, a week before Spring Training starts? That should tell you if it was a fiscally sound decision. The Cubs got no deal on this, but I don't see anyone taking them to task in the media. You give a guy $150M (with incentives) during the bidding war in early December, not a week before Spring Training though. Not my money, but this has potential to blow up.
I disagree. They got a guy who would have went over 200 mil last year for 126-150. Its all about his health. If he stays healthy, this should be fine for them.
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:31 AM
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"The Nationals previously expressed interest in Arrieta at the Winter Meetings, per MLB.com's Mark Feinsand. Arrieta's agent, Scott Boras, has ties to the organization. He represents three of Washington's current rotation members -- Max Scherzer, Stephen Strasburg and Gio Gonzalez -- as well as Nats star Bryce Harper, who's entering a contract year."

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Old 02-12-2018, 11:05 AM
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Nats are in next year or bust mode I guess. Harper and Murphy will be UFA and Rendon will have one more year. The backloaded parts of Scherzer and Strasburg’s contracts kick in and those 2 alone will be making almost $76 million.
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:39 AM
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Nats are in next year or bust mode I guess. Harper and Murphy will be UFA and Rendon will have one more year. The backloaded parts of Scherzer and Strasburg’s contracts kick in and those 2 alone will be making almost $76 million.
In Dusty they trustied for a little too long.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:04 PM
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Nats owner is buddy-buddy with Scott Boras. Nats are probably trying to help Boras out by bidding up the price on Arrieta and have no intention of signing him. They have allegedly done this with Boras clients before.

Lynn is more likely as a Nats SP signing. More likely, the Nats stand pat because their GM does not believe in going "all out" for any one particular year.
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:32 PM
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2020 they will have Darvish, Lester and Heyward eating up about $65 million in payroll when all of their young players will be in arbitration years looking for long term deals.


At the very least, this takes them out of the Harper/Machado craziness.
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Glad they signed him. Now we can stop all this nonsense about them signing Bryce Harper. They are out of $$$ and are out of top prospects.
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The Cubs have $140M tied up in ten players going into next off-season; Bryant, Hendricks and Russell will all be arbitration eligible too. I don't see anyway they can do that and stay under the luxury tax threshold.
I hope you guys are right. Seems like I've heard this sort of doom talk before about the Cubs being unable to afford top-of-the-line free agents only to have it all work out for the North Siders in the end.

The $$$ they have committed for 2019 plus whatever they pay those arb eligible guys is interesting to note, though.
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Old 02-13-2018, 11:28 PM
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"Yu Darvish signing limits free-agent flexibility for Cubs next offseason."

Headline in Tribune for Mark "Gonzo" Gonzales' story.
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Old 02-14-2018, 05:07 AM
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"Yu Darvish signing limits free-agent flexibility for Cubs next offseason."

Headline in Tribune for Mark "Gonzo" Gonzales' story.
I sure hope you're correct.
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Old 02-14-2018, 09:32 AM
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They're only limited if their ownership want to stay below the luxury tax. The are a very wealthy team right now. Though, I don't see any of the big FA's going to them next offseason.

Harper will probably resign with the Nationals. He's the face of their franchise and I honestly don't see them letting him walk. But if he does, I'd expect a team like the Phillies to go for broke to snag him. Philly is a young team with a ton of payroll flexibility.

Machado wouldn't fit into their plans as they already have Bryant at 3B. But if Machado wants to move to SS, maybe they'd consider moving Addison Russell, though he is only 24 and was worth 2.4 bWAR in only 110 games. But if anyone gets Machado, I want it to be us outbidding the Yankees.

Kershaw is not leaving the Dodgers. I can't see it happening.

They could look at bullplen help, but who wouldn't?
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