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Old 08-29-2017, 11:25 PM
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Okay, sometimes going visual helps. My thought would see the stadium built south of Roosevelt Rd, west of Clark, and east of the River. The image below literally was a cut and paste at the same scale (no Photoshop). The existing site now is all dirt, and you can neatly fit not only the stadium, but plenty of parking as well. Since there are no other parking options around, you can assume most of that parking would be garages.

The next image shows the approximate view from home plate if the outfield was on the north side. This shot is on the Chicago River just west of the site. I've been there quite a bit, and although impressive, it doesn't do justice to how large the Sears (always) Tower would loom.

The other big positive for this location is the Chicago River. A clever architect could place a part of the left field wall along the river (AT&T and PNC parks), with the balance of the outfield facing towards the Loop. I believe building here would be attendance issues to rest for good - just so close to so much.



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Old 08-30-2017, 03:33 AM
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There are another couple views of the same 62-acre site in a Trib article about what the owner intends to develop there.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...12-column.html
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:17 AM
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The City of Chicago offered to build a stadium for the White Sox at Roosevelt + Clark in the mid 1980s. JR stupidly rejected the offer. He wanted a new stadium in Addison/Dupage county on land that he owned. Turning down the South Loop offer by JR has to be the biggest mistake in the modern history of the franchise.
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:06 AM
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The City of Chicago offered to build a stadium for the White Sox at Roosevelt + Clark in the mid 1980s. JR stupidly rejected the offer. He wanted a new stadium in Addison/Dupage county on land that he owned. Turning down the South Loop offer by JR has to be the biggest mistake in the modern history of the franchise.
Yes. I believe this was their biggest mistake as well. If other plans fall through on this site, the Sox should revisit the opportunity when the time comes. Attendance issues would no longer be discussed.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:03 AM
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Attendance issues would no longer be discussed.
If the Sox could consistently put together competitive teams that could actually make the watered-down post season more than once every seven to 10 years, that would solve the attendance question far more than where the stadium is located in my opinion.

If the team is garbage it doesn't matter where the stadium is located or how it looks.

In short winning solves all issues.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:36 AM
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If the Sox could consistently put together competitive teams that could actually make the watered-down post season more than once every seven to 10 years, that would solve the attendance question far more than where the stadium is located in my opinion.

If the team is garbage it doesn't matter where the stadium is located or how it looks.

In short winning solves all issues.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:43 AM
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Turning down the South Loop offer by JR has to be the biggest mistake in the modern history of the franchise.
I would place it second behind putting the Sox on SportsVision.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:53 AM
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Did they really turn down the south loop? I have read this over and over and over and over. Is it true? I thought they reluctantly accepted the across the street from the old ballpark location because they essentially had no choice.

Also, I can't stand all the "what if" ing. What if they did this? What if they did that? They didn't, and I don't see what good comes from continually wallowing in it.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:12 PM
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In reality, how far away are we from really doing this? When is the lease up again?
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Old 08-30-2017, 01:34 PM
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Did they really turn down the south loop? I have read this over and over and over and over. Is it true? I thought they reluctantly accepted the across the street from the old ballpark location because they essentially had no choice.

Also, I can't stand all the "what if" ing. What if they did this? What if they did that? They didn't, and I don't see what good comes from continually wallowing in it.
They had no where else to go and Mayor Harold Washington threatened to have his people on the Stadium Authority Board block any attempts to get city funding for it if it was not actually located IN the city itself.
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Old 08-30-2017, 02:07 PM
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In reality, how far away are we from really doing this? When is the lease up again?
Unless the White Sox are going to finance a new stadium on their own I would say they are nowhere close to doing anything. The state is broke, the city is broke and like someone else said previosuly, if the city/state didn't help the Cubs why does anyone think they will help the Sox, again?
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Old 08-30-2017, 06:21 PM
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Yes. I believe this was their biggest mistake as well. If other plans fall through on this site, the Sox should revisit the opportunity when the time comes."
Who pays for it?



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Old 08-30-2017, 07:30 PM
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In reality, how far away are we from really doing this? When is the lease up again?
I'm pretty sure it's 2029.
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:32 PM
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Yes. I believe this was their biggest mistake as well. If other plans fall through on this site, the Sox should revisit the opportunity when the time comes. Attendance issues would no longer be discussed.
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The City of Chicago offered to build a stadium for the White Sox at Roosevelt + Clark in the mid 1980s. JR stupidly rejected the offer. He wanted a new stadium in Addison/Dupage county on land that he owned. Turning down the South Loop offer by JR has to be the biggest mistake in the modern history of the franchise.
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I would place it second behind putting the Sox on SportsVision.
Almost too many mistakes to count and remember.
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:19 PM
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If the Sox could consistently put together competitive teams that could actually make the watered-down post season more than once every seven to 10 years, that would solve the attendance question far more than where the stadium is located in my opinion.

If the team is garbage it doesn't matter where the stadium is located or how it looks.

In short winning solves all issues.
This is the truth.

Hell I'm a die hard and I've only been to 3 games this season so far.

I usually make 20+.
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