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I'm sure they are relevant in the Baseball world but I can't give them much respect in return. How on earth could they project us at 82-80 in 2006 after having gone all the way in 2005 not to mention going 11-1 in the post season.
They can go pound sand with their projections.
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and gets upset when they are dismissed as folly. They haven't even been nearly right about the Sox in years according to what I've heard and read. If they were right every once in awhile I might put some stock in the methodology . Football and Basketball are far easier to project than baseball . The fact the Sox have a pretty good pitching staff suggests to me they will at least be competitive so I say their latest projections are going to be erroneous also.
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That said, the PECOTA Team Projections are only a very, very small sample of what BP does day in and day out. Yes, these are more "for fun." Just like how respected newspapers occasionally publish silly stories on April Fool's Day but then remain respected members of the journalism community the other 364 days of the year, PECOTA's Team Projections are more for fun to see how the statistical model is working, but that doesn't take away from the other, more meaningful work they do that amounts to the vast majority of the work they contribute.
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The Sox were 4th in runs scored mainly because: 1. Konerko and Dunn had tremendous first halfs. Injury and reality set in. 2. Rios had a tremendous year, but seems to always follow that up with a terrible year. Betting on him to not hit .240 next year is a risky proposition, at best. He's been just as horrible as good two of the last four years. 3. AJ. Yeah, he wouldn't bring that same production again. But we've replaced our best offensive season last year with a guy that's going to be an offensive black hole. If no one on the staff gets hurt I think we'll get to .500 too. |
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The annual slop debate here.
I'll toss in my annual statement - if BP picked the Sox to win the division every year for the past 20 years, regardless of how ridiculously wrong they would be, at least several of the usual group of posters who dismiss their projections would think they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. I feel this is evidenced by the immediate "no respect" attitude. It is far from a question of respect. In fact, respect has basically nothing to do with it.
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They've been wrong so often in the past (and not by just a game or two but by a relative lot) that I suspect they'll be wrong by a lot again this year.
Not losing any sleep over this anymore. Let the 'debate' continue on this thread. Am waiting to see Daver chime in. Lip |
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