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Old 08-23-2017, 09:48 PM
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Default Hill has no-hitter for 9, then loses game...

Rich Hill of the Dodgers tonight joins guys like Andy Hawkins, Ken Johnson and Harvey Haddix.

Threw nine innings of no-hit ball only to lose the game in the 10th inning on a walk off Pirate home run.

Since MLB purged and cleaned up the no-hitter record book about 20 years ago, "officially" he doesn't even get credit for one since he lost the game.

MLB removed all rain-shortened no-hitters (i.e. Melido Perez) and no-hitters where the pitcher of record did not pitch nine full innings and / or win the game.

Feel for the guy.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:30 AM
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It's cruel that an error ruined the perfecto and even crueler that his only hit given up lost him the no-no and the game. Baseball is some sport.
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Old 08-24-2017, 11:27 PM
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Who feels worse: him or his teammates?
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Old 08-28-2017, 12:55 PM
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Rich Hill of the Dodgers tonight joins guys like Andy Hawkins, Ken Johnson and Harvey Haddix.

Threw nine innings of no-hit ball only to lose the game in the 10th inning on a walk off Pirate home run.

Since MLB purged and cleaned up the no-hitter record book about 20 years ago, "officially" he doesn't even get credit for one since he lost the game.

MLB removed all rain-shortened no-hitters (i.e. Melido Perez) and no-hitters where the pitcher of record did not pitch nine full innings and / or win the game.

Feel for the guy.
How many pitchers in MLB history have thrown 9 no-hit innings but lost the no-hitter in extras? I know of the infamous Harvey Haddix 12 perfect innings game in '59.

To clarify, the reason Andy Hawkins's no-hitter was stricken from the record books is because he only pitched 8 innings. Since the Sox were leading, there was no need for them to bat in the bottom of the 9th. Theoretically, if Hawkins's game had taken place in NY with the exact same outcome plus he held the Sox hitless in the top of the 9th, his no-hitter would have counted despite the Yankees losing 4-0.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:51 PM
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How many pitchers in MLB history have thrown 9 no-hit innings but lost the no-hitter in extras? I know of the infamous Harvey Haddix 12 perfect innings game in '59.

Quite a few

http://www.nonohitters.com/near-no-hitters/
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:00 PM
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It looks like Rich Hill is only the 3rd pitcher in the last 50 years to lose a no-hitter in extras after pitching 9 no-hit innings. He joins 2 Expos pitchers from the 90s, including Pedro Martinez who pitched 9 perfect innings before giving up a hit in the 10th.
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Old 08-28-2017, 08:39 PM
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It looks like Rich Hill is only the 3rd pitcher in the last 50 years to lose a no-hitter in extras after pitching 9 no-hit innings. He joins 2 Expos pitchers from the 90s, including Pedro Martinez who pitched 9 perfect innings before giving up a hit in the 10th.
It all depends how far back you want to go. Your post did say, "in MLB history".
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Old 08-29-2017, 07:55 AM
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It all depends how far back you want to go. Your post did say, "in MLB history".
Yes it did. I merely pointed out, after seeing the list, that Hill was only the 3rd pitcher in the last 50 years to have this happen to him. That doesn't contradict my first post.

Thanks for the link, it was interesting to see the list.
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Old 08-29-2017, 02:07 PM
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Tough luck for Hill. No doubt he won't lose too much sleep over this if the Dodgers win the World Series, though.
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:20 PM
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It's cruel that an error ruined the perfecto and even crueler that his only hit given up lost him the no-no and the game. Baseball is some sport.
Makes me laugh even more that Cy Young voters and HOF voters take wins and losses into account when judging a pitcher.

What a meaningless stat.

Just like counting wins and losses for QB's in football.
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