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Old 11-21-2019, 05:52 PM
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No he's not, but the post is unnecessarily/seemingly maliciously pouring water on the excitement of the signing or in much plainer terms:

On another note, a big **** you to the McNeil & Parkins Show who, in their first interview with Yasmani Grandal, posed the below question to the catcher immediately after he called in:

"Why the White Sox?"
I didn't get made about the question because I think it was valid! They wanted to hear him say, "young core and they put forth the effort to sign me... oh and they gave me the fattest check." The Sox have been called cheap since last years' off season. It is good news they spent some of that money!
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:06 PM
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Gives us depth at catcher, a solid bat, he can DH and play some first. They only need to catch him 1/2 the time, so he won't wear out. He'll allow Collins to ease in.
He's not the "Greatest" need, but it was a need; no reason it should preclude other acquisitions
I suppose they could trade McCann - but no urgency there and it would have to be for a starter or a 7/8 inning reliever. There's value in quality depth.
Now go get Wheeler.
And for the cheap pitcher, Colin McHugh. Solid starter and reliever.

After years of Keppinger and Jay, LaRoch and Dunn...and Melky, and on and on, this is fresh air.

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Old 11-21-2019, 06:20 PM
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Gives us depth at catcher, a solid bat, he can DH and play some first. They only need to catch him 1/2 the time, so he won't wear out. He'll allow Collins to ease in.
He's not the "Greatest" need, but it was a need; no reason it should preclude other acquisitions
I suppose they could trade McCann - but no urgency there and it would have to be for a starter or a 7/8 inning reliever. There's value in quality depth.
Now go get Wheeler.
And for the cheap pitcher, Colin McHugh. Solid starter and reliever.

After years of Keppinger and Jay, LaRoch and Dunn...and Melky, and on and on, this is fresh air.
Yes I like that they could trade McCann but good if he sticks around as well
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:40 PM
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https://theathletic.com/1398594/2019...eir-only-step/


Fegan's take...good move, but as many of us have said it needs to be the smallest of the moves yet to come.


edit: That's not what I'm trying to link, but kind of says some of the same things. Trying to link the White Sox Business podcast...today's emergency episode is what I'm referring to.


edit 2: here it is - https://theathletic.com/podcast/41-w...ss/?episode=39
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:44 PM
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Possibly. But you don't give Grandal $73mil to play C only 1/3 of the games, a lot of his value comes from actually playing that position. McCann is good back there too. Collins is below average on D and hasn't proven he can hit in the MLB yet. I just don't see a reason to force ABs or time at C for Collins who just isn't that good. The Sox are clearly trying to win now, their C/DH rotation is weakened by including Collins and his growing pains there.
Grandal also has the ability to impact games when he doesnít start. Letís say McCann or Abreu is up late in a game against a RH reliever following a LH starter. Grandal can pinch hit and stay in the game to catch. If itís not the 4th at-bat of the inning, the pitcher canít be lifted after Grandal is announced, so you know that the platoon matchup canít be countered. Youíre also upgrading the framing for the high-leverage relievers.
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:44 PM
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This should put the narrative that the Sox won't spend money or sign highly sought free agents this offseason to rest.
Don't bet on it. :')
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:46 PM
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Anyone that thinks Grandal wont catch 130 games is dreaming. The Sox arent paying this kind of money for someone to DH and fill in at 1st.
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:51 PM
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Anyone that thinks Grandal wont catch 130 games is dreaming. The Sox arent paying this kind of money for someone to DH and fill in at 1st.

I'd tend to agree with that, short of the manager deciding something else mid season.
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:54 PM
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I'd tend to agree with that, short of the manager deciding something else mid season.

The manager will do what is told of him in these kind of matters.
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:54 PM
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Grandal also has the ability to impact games when he doesnít start. Letís say McCann or Abreu is up late in a game against a RH reliever following a LH starter. Grandal can pinch hit and stay in the game to catch. If itís not the 4th at-bat of the inning, the pitcher canít be lifted after Grandal is announced, so you know that the platoon matchup canít be countered. Youíre also upgrading the framing for the high-leverage relievers.
I'm definitely interested in seeing how the new reliever rules impact the game. I think any way the Sox play it, they are in good shape with Grandal a switch, McCann at least decent last year vs both, and Collins a lefty if he's up.

Not to get too off topic, but trading for Pederson would be huge next year too with this new rule. Most pitchers are righties so he will start 120 games. Then be able to pinch hit later in the game for Leury or whoever is his platoon in RF and pretty much guarantee to face a righty, whom he is almost a career .900 OPS vs with huge power to tie a game up or take the lead.
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:58 PM
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I'm definitely interested in seeing how the new reliever rules impact the game. I think any way the Sox play it, they are in good shape with Grandal a switch, McCann at least decent last year vs both, and Collins a lefty if he's up.

Not to get too off topic, but trading for Pederson would be huge next year too with this new rule. Most pitchers are righties so he will start 120 games. Then be able to pinch hit later in the game for Leury or whoever is his platoon in RF and pretty much guarantee to face a righty, whom he is almost a career .900 OPS vs with huge power to tie a game up or take the lead.
Agreed on Pederson. Hopefully the fact that heís only controlled through 2020 means his trade cost wouldnít be exorbitant.
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Old 11-21-2019, 07:08 PM
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No trades for 1 year players.* It's a failed practice. Howling at the moon stuff.

*okay if you want to trade 1 year player McCann for a 1 year player, then fine.
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Old 11-21-2019, 07:08 PM
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Agreed on Pederson. Hopefully the fact that heís only controlled through 2020 means his trade cost wouldnít be exorbitant.
Exactly, plus the dodgers have like 7 OFers currently so he's expendable.
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Old 11-21-2019, 07:10 PM
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No trades for 1 year players.* It's a failed practice. Howling at the moon stuff.

*okay if you want to trade 1 year player McCann for a 1 year player, then fine.

I hear the Brewers need a catcher.
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Old 11-21-2019, 07:23 PM
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No trades for 1 year players.* It's a failed practice. Howling at the moon stuff.

*okay if you want to trade 1 year player McCann for a 1 year player, then fine.
Under normal circumstances I agree with this premise, but in the case of Pederson filling RF, I think heís fine even if itís just a 2020 stopgap.

If Rutherford, Adolfo, Basabe, or Walker have a great 2020 and look MLB-ready by September, you can let Pederson go for 2021. If not, just re-sign him.
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