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View Poll Results: Should we trade Abreu?
Yes 13 33.33%
No 26 66.67%
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Old 05-30-2018, 12:18 PM
DonnieDarko DonnieDarko is offline
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The only way I trade Jose is if the package is overwhelming, like what happened with Quintana. Otherwise, no way Jose.

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Old 05-30-2018, 12:48 PM
Domeshot17 Domeshot17 is offline
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My question is....

I keep reading that Jose's value to us is greater than anyone else, but why?

Lets be real:

2019 - Maybe we get close to .500
2020 - Maybe we compete for the WC
2021 - Now we are rolling

So Abreu will be nearly 35 years old when we are REALLY looking to compete, 34 if we burn it up.

So what value does he bring now? TV Shirt Sales? Leadership? Are any of those things truly going to make a difference in 2021? Also, with Leadership, is he really all of the sudden a great leader when leadership was lacking with the LaRoche Drama?

I love Jose but if we can get a couple top 125 guys, or a top 50 and top 150, then yes I do it in a second.
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Old 05-30-2018, 12:52 PM
kittle42 kittle42 is offline
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Originally Posted by Domeshot17 View Post
My question is....

I keep reading that Jose's value to us is greater than anyone else, but why?
I think it is a combination of:

1. A belief, mostly unsubstantiated and based on a quote here and there in some columns, that Jose Abreu has some massive influence on making our Cuban players great.

2. A visceral reaction, even by those who support the rebuild, of getting rid of the last remaining star veteran the team has, and a quality person, as well.

3. A belief that keeping him means he'll resign, coupled with the assumption that he'll maintain his level of play.

I don't begrudge anyone their opinion on these issues, but if one tries to be objective on this, trading him simply makes more sense, if a good (not great - you just won't get great) package is available.
Ridiculousness across all sports:

(1) "You have no valid opinion because you never played the game."
(2) "Stats are irrelevant. This guy just doesn't know how to win."
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Old 05-30-2018, 02:08 PM
Mohoney Mohoney is offline
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If the team were willing to leverage some of its substantial 2019 payroll flexibility, I think the White Sox can increase the return in an Abreu trade by removing the uncertainty surrounding Abreuís 2019 salary. Sign Abreu to a $20 million extension for 2019 (IMO that is more than Abreu would get through the arbitration process), and send half of it with Abreu to his new team, along with half of this yearís remaining salary.

Everyone involved would benefit. We get a better talent return in the trade. Abreu gets paid a few million more for 2019 than he otherwise would have been paid. The acquiring team gets elite offensive production at a significantly discounted price.
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