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Old 07-06-2018, 09:36 AM
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Great! Let's hope we see it take place on the South Side before we are all in our graves. Looking forward to a lineup that hits the ball hard to all fields and averages around .280 instead of .230
You're talking five or six more hits a week for the team. Did you ever watch "Bull Durham?"
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Old 07-06-2018, 11:36 AM
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You're talking five or six more hits a week for the team. Did you ever watch "Bull Durham?"
“Home runs are fascist.”
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Old 07-06-2018, 11:39 AM
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“Home runs are fascist.”
Strike outs are fascist.*
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Old 07-06-2018, 12:02 PM
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Strike outs are fascist.*
I was trying to make a joke. I failed.
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Old 07-06-2018, 02:58 PM
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I was trying to make a joke. I failed.
LOL No problem. I literally watched that movie 2 days ago. It was fresh in the mind.
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Old 07-13-2018, 02:00 PM
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So, while everyone is bellyaching over one top prospect or another having a bad day or two, here is a fact I heard on the radio today for all of us the chew on:

Jose Altuve was never ranked higher than 28th. In the Astros' organization, not all of MLB. 28th in the Astros' organization. I'm betting if we saw who the 27 guys ahead of him were, at least 15 of them would be unknown to us today.

You just never know who will be the next Big Thing.
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Old 07-13-2018, 02:24 PM
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So, while everyone is bellyaching over one top prospect or another having a bad day or two, here is a fact I heard on the radio today for all of us the chew on:

Jose Altuve was never ranked higher than 28th. In the Astros' organization, not all of MLB. 28th in the Astros' organization. I'm betting if we saw who the 27 guys ahead of him were, at least 15 of them would be unknown to us today.

You just never know who will be the next Big Thing.

This is so true, it has happened many times and hopefully it happens soon for the Sox. But I think the bellyaching stems from the fact that a generational talent was traded for players that have not produced up to this point. Seeing a high draft choice not produce is easier to stomach than players that were received for the best pitcher in a Sox fans lifetime.
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Old 07-13-2018, 02:43 PM
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This is so true, it has happened many times and hopefully it happens soon for the Sox. But I think the bellyaching stems from the fact that a generational talent was traded for players that have not produced up to this point. Seeing a high draft choice not produce is easier to stomach than players that were received for the best pitcher in a Sox fans lifetime.
All of them are in line with their original expected timeline though.
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Old 07-13-2018, 05:25 PM
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All of them are in line with their original expected timeline though.
When people hear 'top MLB prospect' that was received in return for a yearly cy young candidate, they're expecting a little more than a .230 hitter in year two. Right or wrong, it's tough to watch when the guy you traded has won 27 games in a year and a half. It puts into perspective that this is going to be a long time before they're competitive.....2017-2020 at minimum are going to be terrible years as there are a lot of prospects that are going to go through Moncadas learning curve that haven't even started doing it at the MLB level
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Old 07-13-2018, 05:28 PM
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This is so true, it has happened many times and hopefully it happens soon for the Sox. But I think the bellyaching stems from the fact that a generational talent was traded for players that have not produced up to this point. Seeing a high draft choice not produce is easier to stomach than players that were received for the best pitcher in a Sox fans lifetime.
You also have to recognize good players when you have them. And avoid the fools gold when fishing atop top prospect lists. The Sox do the obvious.
There are a ton of examples of non touted prospects, scrap heap players, et al. Within the last few years, the Dodgers turned 3 career AAAA players into all star level producers.

Organizations create their own breaks with careful and precise scouting, development, evaluation, analytics, etc..
Ahem, Rick Hahn. Do better.

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Old 07-13-2018, 05:33 PM
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When people hear 'top MLB prospect' that was received in return for a yearly cy young candidate, they're expecting a little more than a .230 hitter in year two. Right or wrong, it's tough to watch when the guy you traded has won 27 games in a year and a half. It puts into perspective that this is going to be a long time before they're competitive.....2017-2020 at minimum are going to be terrible years as there are a lot of prospects that are going to go through Moncadas learning curve that haven't even started doing it at the MLB level

Its also disheartening when the top pitching piece tanks as soon as he gets to AAA.
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