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Eh, it's just some people trying to out-pessimist each other, it is what it is.
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Hyperbole. We're starting with almost a complete starting 5 and a closer.
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We have one starting pitcher, another who won't likely be here or effective in 3 years, and a bunch of guys that would be fifth starters on good teams. I know Quintana's got like a 3.80 era, but he also doesn't have good stuff.
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Quintana is one of 3 Sox pitchers in the Top 16 of the AL in WAR. He has thrown 223 innings in the Majors and all his peripherals are better in 2013 than 2012 (some significantly). It is absolutely plausible at this point to see him in the starting rotation of a good team for at least another several years. Look, I get that it's your shtick to take the extreme negative route no matter what, but you're just going to have to learn to deal with the fact that not everybody sees things the way that you think we all should. |
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One of those three is Peavy, who won't be here. The other is Sale. I seriously don't know where all of these 2015 pitchers are coming from for a championship quality rotation. Unless the goal is to get back to "form" of an 82 win perennial "winner". And then to polishing these turds. Yay. Great plan, guys. |
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If it's all deception, they'd catch on quicker than that. It's not like the contenders have 3 number 1 starters. Last edited by Tragg; 06-24-2013 at 01:45 PM. |
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I'm as bad as anybody with the hyperbole, but my god, Munch is on a whole different level.
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Trying to debate Munch is like getting beat in the back of the head with a phone book and the body with a rubber hose at the same time. All right! I admit it! The Sox will never ever be good in any of our lifetimes. Now will you please stop beating me?
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One of the side effects of being the smartest person you know.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "deception". Doesn't every starting pitcher use deception? Not to mention, Quintana is very young. Barring injury, he should be able to pitch another 4- 6 years with basically the same "stuff".
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This is very true. Most teams don't have 2 #1 starters either.
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There's nothing wrong with Quintana's stuff. I like both he and Santiago's arms. Neither has a devastating out pitch, but they both throw hard and are learning to pitch. I don't like the screwball, but Santiago misses a lot of bats with it.
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If the Sox make a couple of astute trades, allocate resources wisely and get anything at all from their minor leagues, they can be a better club by 2015.
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Throwing money at Adam Dunn is a big part of what got us in this mess in the first place. Since some here seem to think we are set up to be world series bound in the next 2 years, which players in FA are you going to grab? Scouting and drafting good players is much harder, yet much more effective, at building a consistent winner than just throwing money at bs in free agency. It's clear we've only excelled at one of those so far for quite a while. |
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