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Old 10-22-2017, 07:20 AM
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Houston makes history by becoming the first team to have represented both leagues in the World Series. (Of course, only one other could have done it, but the Brewers have only made the postseason twice in their 20 years in the NL.)
I thought that was the case last night. An interesting side note.

I couldn't think of another team besides the Brewers that had switched leagues like that.
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:25 AM
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This should be an excellent Series. It's also the first one in quite a while in which I don't dislike one or both teams playing.

I'd like to see the Astros win, but if they don't I will still enjoy the Series.

Congratulations on beating the Yankees, go Astros!
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:23 AM
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I thought that was the case last night. An interesting side note.

I couldn't think of another team besides the Brewers that had switched leagues like that.
No, the Brewers are the only other one.
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Old 10-22-2017, 11:34 AM
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This historic match up of 100-loss teams took place only 5 years ago this month. It was the first such meeting in 50 years and only the 4th time ever in MLB history.

https://www.sbnation.com/2012/10/2/3...-wrigley-field

We probably all had a good laugh at this series back then, but who's laughing now? The Cubs are reigning WS champs with 3 consecutive NLCS appearances and the Astros have had 2 playoff appearance in the last 3 seasons and are now AL champs and headed to the World Series.
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Old 10-22-2017, 02:08 PM
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This historic match up of 100-loss teams took place only 5 years ago this month. It was the first such meeting in 50 years and only the 4th time ever in MLB history.

https://www.sbnation.com/2012/10/2/3...-wrigley-field

We probably all had a good laugh at this series back then, but who's laughing now? The Cubs are reigning WS champs with 3 consecutive NLCS appearances and the Astros have had 2 playoff appearance in the last 3 seasons and are now AL champs and headed to the World Series.
And what do those two teams have in common?

They blew it up completely and went into full rebuild mode.
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Old 10-22-2017, 02:12 PM
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And what do those two teams have in common?

They blew it up completely and went into full rebuild mode.
To be fair, if you're a 100-loss team, you don't need to blow anything up. You're already in full rebuild mode.
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Old 10-22-2017, 05:22 PM
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Thank you Houston!

A week or so ago, my greatest dread was a Cub / Yankee World Series. How can you cheer for both teams to lose? The Cubs did their part, bowing out in an ass-kicking by the Dodgers, but it took until yesterday and ALCS game 7 to send the Yankees home. I can now look forward to a great series without having to root against either team. As a staunch AL follower, I suppose I should pull for the Astros, but the Dodgers were my very first Little League team, so I will always have a soft spot for them.

But, I gotta admit that I am a little bit miffed that Houston got back to the World Series before our boys did, and they had to re-tool for a new league since 2005 to boot.

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Old 10-22-2017, 07:20 PM
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To be fair, if you're a 100-loss team, you don't need to blow anything up. You're already in full rebuild mode.
Not if you haven’t started unloading in earnest.
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:54 PM
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And what do those two teams have in common?

They blew it up completely and went into full rebuild mode.
And what did the Dodgers do? They rebuilt while still trying to contend, proving it is possible to do both.
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Old 10-23-2017, 02:15 PM
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And what did the Dodgers do? They rebuilt while still trying to contend, proving it is possible to do both.
The difference is that the Dodgers also have apparently unlimited funds so they can afford to spend like crazy and absorb poor decisions. The Dodgers paid Andre Ethier $17.5 million for 38 plate appearances. The Astros couldn't afford to do anything close to that.
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Old 10-23-2017, 02:52 PM
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The difference is that the Dodgers also have apparently unlimited funds so they can afford to spend like crazy and absorb poor decisions. The Dodgers paid Andre Ethier $17.5 million for 38 plate appearances. The Astros couldn't afford to do anything close to that.

Not just Ethier. They have big salaried players like Brandon McCarthy and Adrian Gonzalez who haven't been on the active roster for the playoffs and Curtis Granderson and Chase Utley sitting on the bench.
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Old 10-23-2017, 04:18 PM
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And what did the Dodgers do? They rebuilt while still trying to contend, proving it is possible to do both.
Possible, yes but not by a mid market team like the Sox.
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:26 PM
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The Dodgers spent a ton, drafted well, and scouted real well for reclamation projects and good players, Justin Turner was a bust in Baltimore and New York, Chris Taylor was a bust in Seattle, Kenley Jansen used to be a bust catcher, Rich Hill was a huge bust too, Logan Forsythe and Yu Darvish were traded for with a decent crop of prospects.
Bellinger, Seager and Kershaw were draft picks that worked well, and they were getting ready while other players were in LA at the time. They won because they were able to do both, spend and develop players, something we could not do. The big difference here being scouting well.
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:45 PM
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The Dodgers spent a ton, drafted well, and scouted real well for reclamation projects and good players, Justin Turner was a bust in Baltimore and New York, Chris Taylor was a bust in Seattle, Kenley Jansen used to be a bust catcher, Rich Hill was a huge bust too, Logan Forsythe and Yu Darvish were traded for with a decent crop of prospects.
Bellinger, Seager and Kershaw were draft picks that worked well, and they were getting ready while other players were in LA at the time. They won because they were able to do both, spend and develop players, something we could not do. The big difference here being scouting well.
That and a payroll approaching 200 million.
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:44 PM
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SozSpeed22 nails it. An interesting article on the Dodgers success follows.

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/10/20/...s-nlcs-pennant
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