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Old 05-19-2017, 02:44 AM
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Covey puts the Sox in a 4-0 hole and a pitcher who wasn't even invited to spring training holds the Sox to three hits in the first five innings.

Covey goes six innings, allows four runs, five hits and three walks. Typical outing. His ERA is now "down" to seven and a half.

Sox come back to tie the game with late home runs only to lose it on a walk-off with Dan Jennings on the mound. He has really gone south the last few weeks.

That's 13 losses in the last 17 games.

It is what it is.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:59 AM
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The 3-4 weeks of any glimmer of thought that the rebuild somehow wouldn't need to continue in earnest is gone. I watch when I can, but I don't think I've caught a full game other than the one I've attended. I'm in full support of the franchise's direction, but I miss caring about the Sox' results.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:27 AM
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The 3-4 weeks of any glimmer of thought that the rebuild somehow wouldn't need to continue in earnest is gone. I watch when I can, but I don't think I've caught a full game other than the one I've attended. I'm in full support of the franchise's direction, but I miss caring about the Sox' results.
Sadly this is where I'm at too.

If only the Sox could have a meaningful game past May one of these years. Good grief.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:31 AM
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I'll still be watching- root for trade value and prospect development.

Good news last night for Frazier's trade value and for Anderson and A. Garcia's development
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:07 AM
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Im happy they are still competing in games. Im just waiting for the bullpen to go totally south, then it will get very ugly.
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:20 AM
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I'll still be watching- root for trade value and prospect development.

Good news last night for Frazier's trade value and for Anderson and A. Garcia's development
That's where I am as well.
I'm quickly jumping on the trade Kahnle bandwagon. He'll be 28 later this year. What are the odds that he is getting 2 Ks and inning or even 1 when he's 30 or 31? May have to chance it and wait a year to max value, but he's got to go too.
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:44 AM
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That's where I am as well.
I'm quickly jumping on the trade Kahnle bandwagon. He'll be 28 later this year. What are the odds that he is getting 2 Ks and inning or even 1 when he's 30 or 31? May have to chance it and wait a year to max value, but he's got to go too.
Could be- I also think Kahnle could be a cheap closer option (after trading Robertson) , and help us avoid rushing Burdi or having to sign a "stop gap" closer for a few years- even a rebuilding team needs a decent closer- or it just completely disheartens the team and the fan base.
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:12 PM
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That's where I am as well.
I'm quickly jumping on the trade Kahnle bandwagon. He'll be 28 later this year. What are the odds that he is getting 2 Ks and inning or even 1 when he's 30 or 31? May have to chance it and wait a year to max value, but he's got to go too.
Teams are most likely not going to give much up for a non-closer with a short track record. Considering he still has some prime/cheap years left, there's very little risk in keeping him.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:40 PM
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The 3-4 weeks of any glimmer of thought that the rebuild somehow wouldn't need to continue in earnest is gone. I watch when I can, but I don't think I've caught a full game other than the one I've attended. I'm in full support of the franchise's direction, but I miss caring about the Sox' results.
What's been going on isn't evidence that a rebuild is necessary. The White Sox did nothing in the offseason to improve. What is going on is what a rebuild looks like and will probably look like for at least the next decade unless the White Sox work to build a winner instead of collecting prospects other teams are willing to give up for players who actually have shown they can play major league baseball.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:16 PM
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What's been going on isn't evidence that a rebuild is necessary. The White Sox did nothing in the offseason to improve. What is going on is what a rebuild looks like and will probably look like for at least the next decade unless the White Sox work to build a winner instead of collecting prospects other teams are willing to give up for players who actually have shown they can play major league baseball.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:36 PM
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It's really pointless to complain about the team losing and Dylan Covey and the White Sox not being relevant if you believe in the rebuild myth. It's frustrating to see fans who back it complain about the reality of it.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:42 PM
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It's really pointless to complain about the team losing and Dylan Covey and the White Sox not being relevant if you believe in the rebuild myth. It's frustrating to see fans who back it complain about the reality of it.
The rebuild is a "myth"?
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:48 PM
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What is going on is what a rebuild looks like and will probably look like for at least the next decade unless the White Sox work to build a winner instead of collecting prospects other teams are willing to give up for players who actually have shown they can play major league baseball.
So, trading for prospects is not how to build a winner?
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:49 PM
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What's been going on isn't evidence that a rebuild is necessary. The White Sox did nothing in the offseason to improve. .
They had to rebuild because the build-up failed.
The same guy who made the clever Eaton trade and the well-intended Davidson trade, then started looking under rocks for any and every declining veteran he could find to fill half the roster. It never made any sense. And it certainly didn't work, and to go through another year of that would have been ridiculous.
Given that JR wasn't going to bring in a fresh FO, I credit the incumbent FO with the awareness that they had to switch approaches.

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Old 05-19-2017, 09:20 PM
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Covey goes six innings, allows four runs, five hits and three walks. Typical outing. His ERA is now "down" to seven and a half.
I've given him a nickname: Dylan OyVey.
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