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Old 08-05-2014, 12:45 PM
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Weird, because he has three hits off of Glen Perkins alone.

And if OPS isn't your cup of tea:

Eaton vs. RHP - .299/.363/.410 290 PA
Eaton vs. LHP - .320/.386/.388 114 PA

Point was: Eaton's not "especially vulnerable" to lefties, and certainly nowhere near as bad as Gillaspie.
Listening to opposing announcers sometimes gives you bad information and should have recalled that the Twins bullpen hasn't been good against the Sox this year (although not as bad as the Sox bullpen has been against the Twins) and they have a high number of lefties including a closer who isn't a situational lefty and has struggled against the Sox. I apologize.

Nonetheless, opposing managers still bring in lefties specifically to face Eaton. They bring in lefties specifically to face Gillaspie and Dunn. Splitting those lefties in the lineup forces more judicious use in burning their situational lefties. If you have only three lefties in the lineup who pose an offensive you split them up, hopefully in ways that force the opposing manager take out a right-handed reliever early. It used to be automatic for a lefty to come in to face Dunn in the late innings in close games. Now it is becoming automatic to bring in a lefty to face Gillaspie, and the Twins brought in a lefty to face Eaton Saturday night. Stacking your few left-handed hitters makes it easier for the opposing manager to manage his bullpen.

I've read that Ventura makes rookie mistakes, even when the complaints are not pinch-running with the backup catcher in the eighth with a lead or not using a pitcher pinch-run. Stacking your left-handed offensive threats in the lineup would be a rookie mistake Ventura has not made. When he has hit Gillaspie in front of Abreu, he has had a right-handed hitter separating Gillaspie and Eaton.
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Old 08-05-2014, 06:18 PM
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The five or six guys who are having good-to-great years are the reason they are close to .500. The bottom half of this roster is poor. This team has several players that don't belong in the major leagues, and there are at least four guys in the everyday lineup who would not start on a contending team.

I feel like you're watching a different team than I am. I'm just baffled that you think they should be contending. Time to agree to disagree.

I don't know that Ventura is the right guy to lead this team when it's ready to contend. That remains to be seen. But I don't think he's holding the team back right now. Every fan base gripes about their manager. I don't think that our gripes are much different than the gripes fans of other teams make. Most fans think their manager is an idiot, and that other teams have better managers.
Please show me where I said this team should be contending.

I don't care what fan bases do even though there are lots of bad managers in the game. I care about specific things Ventura does and doesn't do that screw this team's chances of winning. Really, can anyone here justify Ventura allowing Sale to pitch himself on to the disabled list earlier this year? That alone was a fireable offense. Can anyone explain the times Ventura has inserted a pinch-runner after a pitch or two has been thrown to the next hitter? Or how about the times he hasn't asked for a review after replays show the Sox would have won the appeal? This stuff is Mickey Mouse.

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Old 08-05-2014, 07:47 PM
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This stuff is Mickey Mouse.
These posts sure are
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Old 08-06-2014, 12:14 AM
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Please show me where I said this team should be contending.

I don't care what fan bases do even though there are lots of bad managers in the game. I care about specific things Ventura does and doesn't do that screw this team's chances of winning. Really, can anyone here justify Ventura allowing Sale to pitch himself on to the disabled list earlier this year? That alone was a fireable offense. Can anyone explain the times Ventura has inserted a pinch-runner after a pitch or two has been thrown to the next hitter? Or how about the times he hasn't asked for a review after replays show the Sox would have won the appeal? This stuff is Mickey Mouse.
You said with a MVP candidate, a Cy Young candidate and an All-Star shortstop, it's embarrassing that they haven't been able to muster a .500 record.

That certainly implies you believe they should be .500 or better. Any team that is .500 or better is contending this year in a mediocre American League.
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