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Old 06-30-2014, 08:25 AM
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More important than all this Buehrle contract / W-L BS, did anyone catch Moises Sierra and Jose Quintana hug each other four times in the dugout? That was probably the funniest thing I've seen all season.

If anyone recorded the game and can turn that into an animated gif, please do so.
I thought that was a GIF.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:30 AM
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Such revisionist BS history. It was never Danks vs MB. It was about Buehrle getting a bigger contract than what he deserved. Mark exceeded his projections and Danks had a freak injury.

Quintana isn't comparable to Buehrle. Jose is a power pitcher. Mark has really good stuff, but doesn't throw hard. They're totally different pitchers.

Stuff does not equal velocity.
It was an easy decision to not offer the contract to MB because they had a young hard-throwing lefty to take his place in Danks.

The Sox were never going to pay Mark what he got though. I think without Danks they would've worked out a deal though. Fitting they paid so much for a younger arm, and that's the one who got hurt.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:32 AM
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According to reports, the Sox didn't make any offer of any kind to Buehrle during or after the 2011 season. It wasn't that Buehrle would have had to take less money to stay, it's that the Sox didn't offer him a contract, period.
They didn't make an offer because no team in the known universe would have matched the ridiculous contract Miami gave him
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:49 AM
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They didn't make an offer because no team in the known universe would have matched the ridiculous contract Miami gave him
The Miami contract was less than the 56/4 the Sox gave Buehrle for his previous contract or the 57/4 they gave to the inferior Danks. It was basically a market contract, and surely Buehrle would have taken the same contract they gave Danks, considering he signed for 54/4 from Miami. How can that be considered ridiculous (at least according to MLB pay) is beyond me.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:04 PM
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Jose Quintana continues to improve as a starting pitcher in this league.
Sox really found a gem with Jose. He seems to be throwing harder than ever, and his breaking ball is coming on strong also.

Love his mound presence, which is like MB...never ruffled.

Sierra is hitting around .275 as a Sox, and has all those other tools...seems better than most of the Sox outfield prospects in the system...he might be our next gem?

Road trip could have been 1-10 or 10-1....should have been at least 6-5.

Still, Sox showed a pulse, and come back home with a little momentum..of course we have the Carroll start coming tomorrow to put that in doubt.
Noesi is a guy I have come to trust...which makes him another possible gem.

Piece by piece, Hahn is building a team....keep finding the gems, rick!
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:48 PM
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I do enjoy the fact that we no longer have to hear how Quintana is going to regress every month or so.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:35 PM
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It doesn't tell you how good or bad a pitcher is.
If you mean individual statistics in isolation instead of the two specific questions I asked, we could be in agreement.
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:50 PM
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Sierra is hitting around .275 as a Sox, and has all those other tools...seems better than most of the Sox outfield prospects in the system...he might be our next gem?
Long swing and not much plate discipline. so far, he looks like Wise to me. But he's younger and wouldn't be the first player whose light goes on in his late 20s.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:23 PM
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I do enjoy the fact that we no longer have to hear how Quintana is going to regress every month or so.
Good point. That piece of dogma got really tiresome.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:36 PM
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The Miami contract was less than the 56/4 the Sox gave Buehrle for his previous contract or the 57/4 they gave to the inferior Danks. It was basically a market contract, and surely Buehrle would have taken the same contract they gave Danks, considering he signed for 54/4 from Miami. How can that be considered ridiculous (at least according to MLB pay) is beyond me.
Danks' contract is over 5 years, not 4. Even if you count in the signing bonuses, Danks' contract is worth less $/year than Buehrle's:

JD: 65/5 = $13m/yr
MB: 58/4 = $14.5/yr

Not passing judgement one way or the other, just getting the facts straight.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:39 PM
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Danks' contract is over 5 years, not 4. Even if you count in the signing bonuses, Danks' contract is worth less $/year than Buehrle's:

JD: 65/5 = $13m/yr
MB: 58/4 = $14.5/yr
Also Danks didnt have the 5/10 which Buehrle would have had. That protects the player not the club.
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:14 PM
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Long swing and not much plate discipline. so far, he looks like Wise to me. But he's younger and wouldn't be the first player whose light goes on in his late 20s.

Maybe it's the number he wears, the lack of plate discipline or the strong arm, but Sierra reminds me of Sosa when he first came to the Sox.
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