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Old 03-28-2014, 08:09 AM
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They had to do it because the following teams were ready to offer him a better deal than this extension when his current contract expires:
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:27 AM
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I just flat out don't understand this deal.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:09 AM
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His destination is DH in probably 3 years.

How many teams out there would be paying a DH $30 million per season for 9 seasons in the open market?
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:48 AM
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Yeah not sure why anyone would be smiling that the most dangerous hitter in the game is locked up for the long term.

Will they regret it in 5 years? Maybe

Will they regret it in 5 years if they win a WS? Not likely.
Eh, they would have had him the next 2 years no matter what. Probably the worst thing that could happen for us is that he rakes this year, still rakes in 2015, but shows a slight decline, and they trade him mid-2015 for a big group of good, young players that make them divisional favorites for the next 10 years.

At least now we know that when he does decline, he will be doing it with the Tigers while getting paid $30M/yr.
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Eh, they would have had him the next 2 years no matter what. Probably the worst thing that could happen for us is that he rakes this year, still rakes in 2015, but shows a slight decline, and they trade him mid-2015 for a big group of good, young players that make them divisional favorites for the next 10 years.

At least now we know that when he does decline, he will be doing it with the Tigers while getting paid $30M/yr.
From our part, it's a hell of dumb deal by the Tigers and improves our division outlook for the future assuming our current youth movement plan works out.

But it also is a concern to me when the time comes for us to start buying FAs. The White Sox will never pay a FA $30 million per season, $25, or even $20.

The few times they have been aggresive, talking $12 - $15 million range it has blown up in their face (Dunn, Danks, trades for Peavy and Rios).
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:26 AM
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Tigers will pay two players --€” Cabrera and right-hander Justin Verlander --€” a combined $59 million per season from 2016-19.

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Trying to make sense of the Cabrera contract - and it isnít easy! Column: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/cabrera-s-contract-a-lesson-in-ilitch-s-logic-not-ours-032714 Ö #Tigers
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:54 PM
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He's so fat and injury prone. This might be worse than the Pujols deal. My god.
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:56 PM
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From our part, it's a hell of dumb deal by the Tigers and improves our division outlook for the future assuming our current youth movement plan works out.

But it also is a concern to me when the time comes for us to start buying FAs. The White Sox will never pay a FA $30 million per season, $25, or even $20.

The few times they have been aggresive, talking $12 - $15 million range it has blown up in their face (Dunn, Danks, trades for Peavy and Rios).
The Sox, like 25 or so other teams, need to produce their own stars and supplement the team with midrange FA's. It's always been that way.
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Old 03-28-2014, 01:52 PM
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He's so fat and injury prone. This might be worse than the Pujols deal. My god.
When has he ever been injury prone?
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:15 PM
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When has he ever been injury prone?
Last year he got hurt but he kept playing through it.

This deal makes sense only because Ilitch is what? In his 80s? He's willing to spend anything to win a World Series before he dies and for the first couple years of this contract Cabrera will still be productive. As he gets older and starts breaking down, Ilitch probably won't be around anymore and won't be paying for a broken down Cabrera and maybe Verlander.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:19 PM
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When has he ever been injury prone?
He's struggled to finish the last 2 years with injuries. That tends to happen to fatty's as they age.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:20 PM
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Last year he got hurt but he kept playing through it.

This deal makes sense only because Ilitch is what? In his 80s? He's willing to spend anything to win a World Series before he dies and for the first couple years of this contract Cabrera will still be productive. As he gets older and starts breaking down, Ilitch probably won't be around anymore and won't be paying for a broken down Cabrera and maybe Verlander.
It makes sense to extend him to an absurd long term deal to help in the short term? Um, okay.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:43 PM
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Last year he got hurt but he kept playing through it.

This deal makes sense only because Ilitch is what? In his 80s? He's willing to spend anything to win a World Series before he dies and for the first couple years of this contract Cabrera will still be productive. As he gets older and starts breaking down, Ilitch probably won't be around anymore and won't be paying for a broken down Cabrera and maybe Verlander.
According to the original MLB article on this, the Tigers only have 4 players locked up past 2015 - Cabrera, Verlander, Sanchez, and Kinsler, I think. Given that, it seems like Detroit's best chance to win a World Series is either this year or next, and Cabrera would have been in Detroit for 2014 and 2015 regardless. None of those 4 guys are going to be worth much to a team in major flux and possibly requiring a major rebuild after 2015. Perhaps then Ilitch will just go out and spend a bunch more money to field a team. As a Sox fan, I hope he does and that such expenditures hamper Detroit for years to come.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:09 PM
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It makes sense to extend him to an absurd long term deal to help in the short term? Um, okay.
For an 84 year old owner who has had some health issues of late, yes it make sense. For Ilitch, there is no long term.
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