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Old 12-14-2013, 10:39 PM
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If Gandhi hadn't shredded Parque's shoulder riding the whip to the 2000 pole, he could have carved out a classic crafty-lefty career arc.
Eh, maybe, but if a guy shreds his shoulder after 3 seasons averaging 158 IP per year, it's possible he's just not cut out for that line of work

I think he was more a victim of being an average to below average crafty lefty who happened to play in the middle of the Steroid Era offensive boom. Maybe if he was born in 1965 or 1985, he could have carved out a nice little career, unfortunately for him, he entered his mid-20s in 1998.
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Old 12-15-2013, 05:46 AM
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Eh, maybe, but if a guy shreds his shoulder after 3 seasons averaging 158 IP per year, it's possible he's just not cut out for that line of work

I think he was more a victim of being an average to below average crafty lefty who happened to play in the middle of the Steroid Era offensive boom. Maybe if he was born in 1965 or 1985, he could have carved out a nice little career, unfortunately for him, he entered his mid-20s in 1998.
Yeah, you're probably right, but Jimmy P. was really nice to my dog on Dog Day 2000 (he petted our border collie in front of the dugout during the pre-game parade; Foulke gopher ball for the loss!). So I have a real soft spot in my heart for him.
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Old 12-16-2013, 07:50 PM
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Judging ability off of production without care for anything else is undeniably optimistic. Almost trollish. Production does not equal talent. Jim Parque produced. He had very little talent.

Quintana's a 3-4 who's production has exceeded that. It may continue for many years, but it probably won't unless he makes serious strides.
um--how could he or anybody else produce without talent
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