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Old 12-16-2013, 01:15 PM
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31 games at age 22? Is he our 2014 3B? I can definitely see for the future, but what about now? Who is our closer? Jones?
I would assume he's probably the Opening Day 3B. Closer is probably Jones, maybe Webb
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:15 PM
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Yea or nea, prospect gurus?

And congrats Brian on the scoop.
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:19 PM
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As a fan, you have to applaud all the moves the Sox have made.
They are definitely moving in the right direction.
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:19 PM
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I know that fielding percentage isn't the best defensive metric out there, but Davidson's .925 fielding percentage at third in the minors is pretty awful.

That being said, I have no problem with moving Reed for him.
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:20 PM
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Holy crap.

This is big... Way to go Hahn.

Closers are expendable.
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:20 PM
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Yea or nea, prospect gurus?

And congrats Brian on the scoop.
I'm not a prospect guru, but in just perusing various message boards over the past couple months, Davidson is always included in the hypothetical trades with AZ proposed by fans of other teams. I don't know if that means much, but getting a starting position player that could man 3B for 6-7 years in return for a mediocre closer sounds pretty damn good to me.
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:21 PM
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Bullpen pitchers are a dime a dozen. If this Davidson becomes just a solid 3B, the trade was worth it.
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:21 PM
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Holy Crap! Big time turnover going into this season. I can't have a problem with that, considering how bad the team was last year. So who gets traded from the infield? Beckham/Keppinger/Gillaspie/Semien all fighting for 2B?
Beckham starts at 2nd, kep is your utility guy, the rest are gone...
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:21 PM
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I liked Reed, but we all know that closers are year to year....and probably a closer is not desperately needed next year for a team that probably does not contend.

And, I like how Hahn has put some young talent together since last July.
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:22 PM
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Closers on bad teams are expendable and it looks like Davidson has put up some good offensive numbers in the past, someone mentioned he had a low fielding percentage (I know, I know it's a bad stat) but that is somewhat alarming. We will see though, it appears to be a good move.
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:25 PM
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Closers on bad teams are expendable and it looks like Davidson has put up some good offensive numbers in the past, someone mentioned he had a low fielding percentage (I know, I know it's a bad stat) but that is somewhat alarming. We will see though, it appears to be a good move.
especially with the reports that Abreu is not a very talented fielder
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:26 PM
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I like it- I'll wait to see what the prospect gurus have to say- but I think Reed was a very replaceable closer- and I REALLY like what Hahn has done with acquiring a number of young, but major league ready talent.

I'm going to include Viciedo (since he's 24) in the mix- LF, CF, RF, 3rd, 1B- with young/new/exciting talent- mixed in with (holiday optimism) Ramirez and Beckham- only the catcher role to upgrade as far as starting 9 goes.

From rock bottom in July- to make all this progress- and only giving up Peavy/Santiago/Reed- I am very impressed with Hahn-
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:29 PM
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Great trade!
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Closers on bad teams are expendable and it looks like Davidson has put up some good offensive numbers in the past, someone mentioned he had a low fielding percentage (I know, I know it's a bad stat) but that is somewhat alarming. We will see though, it appears to be a good move.
Robin Ventura had a .930 fielding percentage as a 21-year-old at AA. He got significantly better with time. The key will be whether Davidson wants to put in the work to get better. He's got the right manager to teach how to better play his position.
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Closers on bad teams are expendable and it looks like Davidson has put up some good offensive numbers in the past, someone mentioned he had a low fielding percentage (I know, I know it's a bad stat) but that is somewhat alarming. We will see though, it appears to be a good move.
If you read any scouting report on Davidson you will see that they generally agree he has made good strides defensively over the course of his MiLB career.
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