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3.94 in the second half. |
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Or, you know, I made a mistake when calculating it by using his unearned runs. But two extra runs being counted or not belies the truth of the situation. Santiago was largely ineffective with no change in his pitching. He went from having amongst the best BA against to the worst without his pitches changing velocity or location. It's the beginning of the end for him being more than a borderline pitcher, short of learning to command his pitches significantly better...which is a stretch.
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Sickels didn't say Santiago was a 3/4, he outlined a situation where he could become one. He probably also banked on him being able to control some of his pitches. |
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Yeah, but when it's a habit it starts to seem like you're just making up numbers, particularly after its corrected and you still claim the made up stat is right.
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Santiago - again we'll see. He struggles with walks and his K rate fell his last few starts. And don't forget our bullpen...after Jones, Reed and to be kind Lindstrom, those guys were rancid. Troncoso, Veal..it's impossible for us to have pitchers that bad again. You really think the Sox will trade Quintana? For what - minor leaguers, or a hitter? |
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I'm down for 1 more year.
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Frankly, I thought your number discrpency was just a typo before you defended it and I assumed it was something you read on the Internet. But your analysis is where the humor lies. |
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Most people wouldn't view a B- starter prospect as more than a 4/5/spot guy. When I say it's subjective, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. But quite a tremendous margin. My instinct is to say, no ****ing way because you're wrong 90% of the time with that argument. |
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Santiago's K rate fell every month he pitched, but his pitch locations and velocity stayed the same. There's a really good piece on this...I think it was on BP...where they showed that Santiago wasn't regressing due to anything physical but is rather falling back to his abilities. It's not impossible for us to have a bad pen again. What, you think we're going out and spending $30 million on a new pen? Yes...I think they'll sell high on Quintana and find a taker. He's not as good as his year was last year, talent wise at least. He's a pretty good bet to regress at least a bit. |
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I think we're over analyzing Quintana- he's a 24 yo prospect- with 2 solid seasons under his belt- and he improved in 2013 vs. 2012.
ERA dropped from 3.76 to 3..51, while showing improved stamina going from 22 to 33 GS and reducing his WHIP from 1.35 to 1.22. Seems like very solid progress for a young pitcher. I think he's a nice #3 starter- and only see evidence of steady progress vs. a fluke, "sell high" type of performance.
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TomBradley72 http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/334c0314 Players that are an important part of the rebuild: Anderson, Fulmer, Giolito, Lopez, Moncada Players that might be or could have trade value: Abreu, Bummer, Castillo, Davidson, Delmonico, A. Garcia, Jones, Sanchez |
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Why?
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The White Sox have some young talent to work with, so they do not need a complete tear-down. A team like Houston did need a complete tear-down, because they didn't have young core pieces. Getting Garcia and Abreu and having good young pitching, is a nice core to work with. There are still more things to get done, but this is a decent start. Hopefully they will stock up on more young talent in the draft and internationally.
The jury is still out on what they are going to do with some of their pitchers, but there are arms to work with. After Dunn's contract ends, there will be more free salary. |
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Even if it wasn't a complete overhaul, Quintana will be in his second year of arbitration at the earliest the next time we're sniffing the division. And he's probably not the type of guy you want to pay long term. If you trade him now, you can get something fairly decent for him. Perhaps another lineup piece. |
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