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Well, if it works for football in New York and basketball in LA, why not?
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I know that's never going to happen because realistically San Fran is the big city. But that's why two teams won't work. |
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Maybe my geography is off or maybe things have changed since I last went to the bay area about 10 years ago, but isn't Oakland pretty much a dump? Couldn't a comparison be made to the cubs and Sox general areas back in the era of Wrigleyville being party central and the Cell being next to the projects? The A's probably have a pretty decent following, but the people just don't want to go to Oakland. Maybe if they played in a nicer area, more of their fans would show.
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You obviously don't spend much time in the Bay Area. |
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Other than living there for a year? No.
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And while Santa Clara County has a lot of people, it's also both huge and terrible to travel. Unless you live off the 101, it's going to take you hours to get to San Jose. |
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Did you happen to notice that it's only a 20-minute BART ride from the Embarcadero in San Francisco to the coliseum in Oakland?
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I think you are misunderstanding my argument. Yes, I know San Fran and Oakland are really close and easily accessible. But that's not even 1.5 million people between the two stadiums available by transit.
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Also, in regards to population...it's not like it's the midwest. St. Louis survives with lower numbers because everyone that lives in St. Louis is a Cards fan, and an avid one at that. That culture isn't really an option anywhere else. |
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Going by the cities alone on population is a rather dumb way to look at it. It'd be like wondering how the Nats can survive with DC only having 500,000 people, or the Braves on Atlanta's 400,000.
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I don't think the A's aren't better off in San Jose...I just don't think the situation is that much better. |
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As for the second, the Dodgers were #1 in attendance in 2013. The Giants were #3. The Angels were #7. The Padres had a bad team and still drew 26,000 fans per game (nearly 400,000 more in total than the White Sox). So, the notion that people in California don't travel to ballparks doesn't seem to hold water. At the gate, only Oakland struggled, and they have obvious stadium issues. I see no reason why that wouldn't improve in a more heavily populated and perhaps wealthier (and surely more and closer connection to corporate wealth, with less competition with the Giants) area in San Jose. To say nothing of being in a new ballpark in any location. |
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There is no question the A's play in a truly awful venue for major league baseball. Still, Oakland, is under some pressure, at risk of losing its MLB, NFL and NBA teams that define it. The Town could step up and offer help. I don't think A's ownership is interested, but it could be enough to hurt the A's chances of convincing baseball to allow the A's to relocate. But even with the A's playing in such an awful place (really, it has to be experienced to be appreciated), California does an excellent job of supporting five major league teams despite having better things to do. |
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