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Old 10-19-2013, 07:09 PM
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Bad news is it looks like the Yankees are planning on breaking the bank for guys like McCann and in need of free agents at the same positions as the Sox , 3B for example.
The Yankees can go ahead and break the bank for Brian McCann for all I care.
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:13 PM
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The Yankees can go ahead and break the bank for Brian McCann for all I care.
I would agree but in this free agent market he stands out. The offensive production of today's Catchers is terrible.
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:26 PM
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I would agree but in this free agent market he stands out. The offensive production of today's Catchers is terrible.
All the more reason to not spend on an "offensive" catcher.
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:02 PM
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No, but you used the same logic to defend him as people used for Beckham. Forget three horrible years as a regular with a clear path of regression, the guys still young! It makes no sense. By the logic you used, anyone who is 24 should be starting regardless of ability.
Putting words in my mouth I see. All I meant was that it's much too early to give up on the kid. You completely blew it up to much more and called him "one of the worst in the league". I don't think you can lump every player in the same bag and say that he'll never be good because of "x". Viciedo dealt with injuries all season, I'm up for giving him a full 2014 to see if he can bounce back.
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Old 10-19-2013, 10:52 PM
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Geovany Soto and Nate McLouth is who I would target
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:12 PM
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Not even a chance he isn't better than Dunn.
I think there is an excellent chance he will be better than Dunn. But that is a very low bar.
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:18 PM
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Geovany Soto and Nate McLouth is who I would target
I'd look for someone like Soto.
It's McLouth's defense good? We need a defender out there. I was thinking Chris Young...someone we can get on the cheap.

But how the heck can we get Dunn out of town?
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:19 PM
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I think there is an excellent chance he will be better than Dunn. But that is a very low bar.
If he puts up exactly the same hitting line Dunn did at his age, it would be considered an enormous success, and a national story.
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:19 PM
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I'd look for someone like Soto.
It's McLouth's defense good? We need a defender out there. I was thinking Chris Young...someone we can get on the cheap.
Its meh but hes a table setter and a base stealer he's pretty good.
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:04 AM
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:46 AM
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Geovany Soto and Nate McLouth is who I would target
I'd go for Dionar Navarro
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:33 AM
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Yeah he's not likely to get any better , he is an excellent fielding , ok hitting 2B that sticks out like a sore thumb on a team that can't hit.
He's not an excellent fielder. That's a Hawk myth.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:51 PM
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He didn't play half the year and BA is overrated. He has a WAR above replacement level , not much, but higher than Viciedo, who for some reason people love on this forum.
A WAR just at or above replacement level doesn't mean average. A team of replacement level players is supposed to produce a winning percentage of something like .320.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:58 PM
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All the more reason to not spend on an "offensive" catcher.
I don't know what McCann will command, but taking a look at the names Flowers and Phegley tells me if there is one team that would get maximum value from spending at the catcher position, it's the White Sox.
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Old 10-20-2013, 02:07 PM
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He's not an excellent fielder. That's a Hawk myth.
How do you figure? Statistically he has been well above average as well, except this year. Look at 2012. .990 Fielding percentage along with above average range factors and 110 double plays. Fourth in the AL in fielding, fourth in range factor, third in assists and first in double plays.

I'll agree he didn't play up to his past standards this year, but I don't know how you can argue with numbers from the previous years.
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