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Old 10-18-2013, 12:42 AM
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Does he swing at balls out of the strike zone? Does he never walk? I'm afraid I know the answers to those questions.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:48 AM
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$68 million for a 26 year old who has faced hardly any major league pitching?

What could possibly go wrong?

If he was younger, I'd be less concerned. I'd rather see more money spent on developing young players.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:46 AM
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$68 million for a 26 year old who has faced hardly any major league pitching?

What could possibly go wrong?

If he was younger, I'd be less concerned. I'd rather see more money spent on developing young players.
They're doing that, too. http://www.southsidesox.com/minors/2...-micker-zapata

This kind of argument drives me crazy, really. You can't JUST "develop young players", just like you can't JUST sign free agents. It's even more true than ever, because the current CBA has restrictions on how much teams can spend on the draft and on signing international players (there's an exception for professional Cubans over age 23). So, it's NOT POSSIBLE that the Sox could have just spent that 68 million on young players. It's this move, or a major league player, or doing nothing with it.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:58 AM
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Does he swing at balls out of the strike zone? Does he never walk? I'm afraid I know the answers to those questions.
Nobody knows what his plate patience will be at the big league level, but he is a hitter for both average and power. Hopefully whoever our new hitting coach is can help with that and has to be better at that than Manto.

I like this move for two reasons: we lock down a power hitter for a below market price (yes we are taking a bit of a risk) and now we can move Viciedo either this winter or next summer before Boras tries to take us to the cleaners for a power-only bat.

I hope we don't expect a monster season right away, he's going to have to adjust.

Don't stop now, Hahn, we need a few more young talented bats.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:25 AM
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I'll take some congris with that.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:41 AM
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I think this is a very good signing. As I have posted quite often lately, a free agent signing hopefully fills a void. A trade may only swap one hole for another. A couple of thoughts on Abreu:

I get a little concerned that it seems like this was a Kenny Williams decision. I hope hahn was 100% with it.

I read where the Red Sox felt he is really a DH not a 1B because he is not that athletic. They figured on putting him on first for a year or two till Ortiz retires. But he is young and some guys develop into decent 1B. Mike Napoli is doing pretty well this ALCS series there.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:03 AM
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If you read all my posts you will see I never said that.

My point is Im afraid the Sox are going to stick with their philosophy of getting power hitters that cant run or field and fill the other holes with whatever comes their way.
The Garcia trade would suggest otherwise.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:08 AM
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I'll take some congris with that.
Love it! And don't forget the lechon, yucca, and tostones!

My reaction to hearing the news that another talented Cuban player has signed with our Sox: WOO-HOO! YIPPEE! YES!

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Old 10-18-2013, 08:11 AM
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Default Jim Spencer

Some people mentioned Jim Spencer on there posts. Spencer was a Gold Glove Winner first baseman. He won his Gold Glove with the Angels. He was so good defensively that White Sox manager Paul Richards told Spencer after the 1976 season that he was as good a defensive first baseman as he had seen in his 40 year baseball career. Paul Richards wasn't known to say many positive things about the 1976 White Sox team, His comments about Spencer were one of the few nice things he said about the 1976 White Sox. Spencer was an average hitter and a tremendous defensive first baseman. Unfortunately Bill Veeck sold him to the Yankees after the 1977 season. Another one of the dreadful moves made by Bill Veeck.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:14 AM
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Another of the first baseman/DH types Williams likes to stockpile.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:18 AM
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I like the mentality of not re-building from scratch, the Red Sox went from last to first in one year and I think with our pitching staff and a couple more pick ups we could do the same, not saying that we will but we could. At my age I'm not in the mood for any 5 year rebuilding plans.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:22 AM
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Somewhat of a risk, but a good kind of risk, and one they should probably take. I like the idea of spending the money on a Cuban prospect with big potential than some MLB free agent who will command higher salary and has less of a ceiling.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:33 AM
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The base clogger posts are making me want to bang my head into the wall.

The main base clogger in recent history? Paul Konerko. One of the greatest White Sox of all-time.

I give up.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:47 AM
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$68 million for a 26 year old who has faced hardly any major league pitching?

What could possibly go wrong?

If he was younger, I'd be less concerned. I'd rather see more money spent on developing young players.
When you're like the Sox, sometimes you have to swing for the fences on a big deal to try and grab a guy who could be a real difference-maker.

I also like that we have several Cuban players on the roster. That can be very helpful if they know other guys on the roster that they are friends/acquaintances with.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:49 AM
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The base clogger posts are making me want to bang my head into the wall.

The main base clogger in recent history? Paul Konerko. One of the greatest White Sox of all-time.

I give up.
Yeah, and Frank Thomas was one of the biggest base cloggers of all time.
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