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Old 10-04-2013, 09:56 AM
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WRONG. As a White Sox fan living in New England Theo made the moves that won in 2004. He acquired Ortiz, Millar, Shilling, Cabrera and Foulke and hired Francona as manager. In addition, he drafted Pedroia and Lester in 04 and folllowed that up with Buchholz and Ellsbury the next year. Those 4 are all All-Star calibre players.

I am glad he left Boston but his protege unfortunately is also having success.
That kind of drafting seems like a lot of luck no matter how smart a talent evaluator you are. I seriously doubt that will happen again with the Cubs.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:13 PM
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Yeah so he made some savvy draft picks and moves, but he had a base to work with when he took over , this is a much bigger job with so many more things that have to go right.

Agree. Boston had good scouting to find the talent and a minor league system that developed Ellsbury and Pedroia in 3 years and Lester and Buccholtz in 2.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:25 PM
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:27 PM
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:54 PM
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they forgot former Cubs personality that has name recognition but nothing else
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Old 10-04-2013, 10:08 PM
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Who knew Montanans would make such an informed decision?
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:18 PM
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Girardi is staying in New York.

http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/joe-g...l-stay-yankees
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:22 PM
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Oh boy, somebody make sure to get the sharp objects away from Dave Kaplan.
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:31 PM
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But . . but . . but . . they PROMISED me! It was on TV and the radio! Mwaaa

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Old 10-09-2013, 02:31 PM
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Dan Bernstein's sources fail him again.
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:34 PM
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Dan Bernstein's sources fail him again.
Or he got played and his source was using him as a puppet (which is awesome in its own way).
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:35 PM
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I don't see what the big deal was. As we all know, a manager has very little effect upon how players perform.
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:29 PM
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"But....Dave Kaplan was sure he was coming...and Lil' Danny Bernstein said he was, according to his "sources"..........."


BTW, I'll say it again. B & B don't have any sources, and are pretty much full of **** anytime they say they have inside info from said sources.
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:12 PM
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I don't see what the big deal was. As we all know, a manager has very little effect upon how players perform.
That's right, several people on this here forum have told us repeatedly a manager is simply a victim of circumstances with little or no control of his own fate or players.
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:16 PM
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How could Girardi turn down the Cubs for the Yankees, Dan Bernstein said the Cubs were the better job.
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