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Old 09-30-2013, 01:50 PM
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He could join the Sox as our hitting coach.
I wouldn't be opposed to that. There are worse hires the Sox could make for that position. I don't think Sveum was a brilliant manager or anything, but IMO, he was set up to fail by the Cubs' front office. Castro isn't near the player they think he is. I'm still undecided about Rizzo. I think they believe he is Joey Votto. He might be Adam LaRoche.
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I heard Theo say he wants a manager who can teach younger players how to perform better in the major leagues. Maybe he'll hire Robin Ventura as his next manager.
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He could join the Sox as our hitting coach.
Well, he did play for the Sox once upon a time. So, he meets the first qualification for employment as a coach.
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Well, he did play for the Sox once upon a time. So, he meets the first qualification for employment as a coach.
There are others?
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He was Ozzie's replacement when Ozzie blew his knee out, wasn't he? They were around here at about the same time.
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:43 PM
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He was Ozzie's replacement when Ozzie blew his knee out, wasn't he? They were around here at about the same time.
I believe Sveum was Craig Grebeck's replacement after Grebeck got hurt. Grebeck was subbing for Ozzie who had gotten hurt earlier in the year. So Sveum was Tyler Greene.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:44 PM
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I wouldn't be opposed to that. There are worse hires the Sox could make for that position. I don't think Sveum was a brilliant manager or anything, but IMO, he was set up to fail by the Cubs' front office. Castro isn't near the player they think he is. I'm still undecided about Rizzo. I think they believe he is Joey Votto. He might be Adam LaRoche.
This. He wasn't a good manager IMO, but there was no way he was A.) going to succeed with what they through out there the last year and B.) stick around once things did get better by 2016...2018...2022...whenever that magic year is.
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This. He wasn't a good manager IMO, but there was no way he was A.) going to succeed with what they through out there the last year and B.) stick around once things did get better by 2016...2018...2022...whenever that magic year is.
Wow: I posted this a few weeks ago as a rumor on a Boston radio show. Their source was probably Peter Gammons but I didn't think it would happen.
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:42 PM
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Theo & co. are scrambling to create the illusion of progress as their target contention date of 2014 inches backwards. This was supposed to be the year that Castro, Samardzijaajsdjija, Rizzo, Brett Jackson et al. were supposed to take the big leap forward and vault them over .500 next year. It didn't happen, but they have to act like everything is going according to the master plan. Time for the front office to put their money where their mouth is.

I will say that the Cubs farm system is looking awfully good right now. Between Baez, Soler, Almora, and Bryant alone they're probably going to get something good. At the same time, I'll believe it when I see it. I remember when Corey Patterson and Felix Pie were franchise-changers who were going to take them to the next level.

Right now, just gotta hope that the Sox get there first.
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So, let's see.....he was to lose as many games as possible to ensure the highest draft position possible while developing The Future (Castro and Rizzo).

Makes as much sense as the instructions the HAL 9000 was given and we saw how that turned out.
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If you believe Dan Bernstein and his sources, Girardi is just a matter of his contract expiring. It goes until October 31st.

I think it has to happen. If Girardi isn't the guy there was no reason to fire Sveum with a year left.
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I think it has to happen. If Girardi isn't the guy there was no reason to fire Sveum with a year left.
That does make a lot of sense, of course, but Theo's always going to be the guy who does what Theo does because Theo knows better than everyone else. A couple of years ago, Sandberg was the obvious choice to take over the MLB club; he was a legendary player so he would have been credible with the fans, he knew the players in the Cubs' MiLB system, he had success with them at the minor league level... But Theo still decided to go with the bench coach from Milwaukee.

If you're looking for a dark horse candidate, I humbly submit Dave Magadan; former gritty player, was a coach for the '07 Red Sox so he knows Theo, and he's been a pretty successful hitting coach at two stops in Boston and now Texas. Feels a lot more like the "Outside the Box" type Theo hire.
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That does make a lot of sense, of course, but Theo's always going to be the guy who does what Theo does because Theo knows better than everyone else. A couple of years ago, Sandberg was the obvious choice to take over the MLB club; he was a legendary player so he would have been credible with the fans, he knew the players in the Cubs' MiLB system, he had success with them at the minor league level... But Theo still decided to go with the bench coach from Milwaukee.

If you're looking for a dark horse candidate, I humbly submit Dave Magadan; former gritty player, was a coach for the '07 Red Sox so he knows Theo, and he's been a pretty successful hitting coach at two stops in Boston and now Texas. Feels a lot more like the "Outside the Box" type Theo hire.
You might be on to something with Magadan. Sveum was a coach under Theo at one point. Theo might want to go with the familiar.

By the way, I love how Gardenhire signed another two year deal with the Twins today. I was enjoying the sports blab radio fantasies that he wanted to come here to a larger market to manage the legendary Cubs.....
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:06 PM
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Doesn't matter who the manager is, he won't be around very long if the players don't know that there are 3 outs per inning, run on any contact with two outs, tag up on fly balls with less than 2 outs, hit the cut off man, don't throw letter high 90 mph fast balls to power hitters, etc, etc. Teams that play fundamentally bad baseball don't win championships. Same goes for the Sox.
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