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Old 09-28-2013, 08:07 PM
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Default Jeff Manto "relieved of duties"

According to Hawk on the broadcast tonight. No official announcement yet.
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:13 PM
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I just heard that too. Obviously the hitting coach's fault for some of the atrocious situational approaches we have been witness to this year.

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Old 09-28-2013, 08:24 PM
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It's Walker's fault.
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:27 PM
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Not very surprising reading Rick's comments. I'm hoping they tear down and rebuild the entire organization when it comes to hitting.
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:29 PM
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Eh. You can't coach up ****, but I'm not convinced he can coach up guys who can hit.
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:30 PM
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Who is the fielding coach?
Who is the base running coach?
Who is the hit the cut off man coach?

Those guys need to go too.
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:37 PM
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Who is the fielding coach?
Who is the base running coach?
Who is the hit the cut off man coach?

Those guys need to go too.
This is a good point. Yeah, they can't hit, but they didn't do much of anything else right, either. Just firing Manto is a sacrificial lamb move, when the team needs an overhaul. There'd better be more coming.
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:38 PM
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Who is the fielding coach?
Who is the base running coach?
Who is the hit the cut off man coach?

Those guys need to go too.
Ventura?
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:50 PM
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This is a good point. Yeah, they can't hit, but they didn't do much of anything else right, either. Just firing Manto is a sacrificial lamb move, when the team needs an overhaul. There'd better be more coming.
As I mentioned in the 100 loss thread we were watching Rookie League baseball with the Sox this year.
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:53 PM
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Interesting that they would announce this now and not just wait for 2 more games and the end of the season.
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:30 PM
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As I mentioned in the 100 loss thread we were watching Rookie League baseball with the Sox this year.
More like Junior Varsity.
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:32 PM
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Everyone needs to go
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:33 PM
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I'm thinking the news somehow leaked, and Hahn told Manto tonight rather than him finding out on his smartphone.

Darryl Boston is the base-stealing and outfield coach, as far as I remember.
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:36 PM
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I'm thinking the news somehow leaked, and Hahn told Manto tonight rather than him finding out on his smartphone.

Darryl Boston is the base-stealing and outfield coach, as far as I remember.
This is the only thing that I could think of. You either do it earlier in the year, or you have the courtesy to wait 24/48 hours to do it.

When the team hits like garbage, the hitting coach is usually the first one to go.
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:43 PM
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Who is the fielding coach?
Who is the base running coach?
Who is the hit the cut off man coach?

Those guys need to go too.
A lot of that used to be Jeff Cox, who actually did some teaching at the major league level. Cox taught Ramirez how to bunt, Ramirez never having bunted before he came up to the White Sox.

Major league coaching is usually a maintenance thing rather than an instruction thing, although Ted Williams and Charley Lau did some successful instructing at the major league level. Minor league coaches are more often the instructors. Hitting coaches don't teach players to hit at the major league level. They work with them to get the most out of what they can do. Hitting coaches in some organizations and pitching coaches in others tend to be scapegoats. In a few cases (Rudy Jaramillo comes to mind) they get too much credit.

You would have to be part of the team, though, to know if Manto was a scapegoat or if he was having problems working with the hitters.
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