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Old 09-16-2013, 10:13 AM
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Default Mark Kotsay will retire a Padre

Kotsay: “San Diego is where Jamie and I and our family call home,I signed back here (before the 2012 season) because I wanted to end my career as a Padre.”

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...tsay-retiring/
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:58 PM
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Earth to Mark Kotsay: your career ended some time before we signed you.
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:13 PM
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:06 PM
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I'll take him over Thome as my DH any day
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:07 PM
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I remember Hawk's comment when we first got Kotsay in 2009, "He's going to be a big reason why we win this division." Yeah.

And I will never get over the failed DH by committee crap we had to put up with in 2010.
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Old 09-17-2013, 02:40 PM
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I was hoping he would come back here, so he could once again be overused.
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Old 09-17-2013, 02:58 PM
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I'll take him over Thome as my DH any day
Why do people continue to act like it was a Kotsay vs Thome decision? It was a Kotsay vs the TONS of cash they would have had to overpay Thome to bring him back decision.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:18 PM
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Why do people continue to act like it was a Kotsay vs Thome decision? It was a Kotsay vs the TONS of cash they would have had to overpay Thome to bring him back decision.
Jim Thome made $1.5 million with Minnesota that season. Mark Kotsay made $1.5 million with the White Sox (they also paid Andruw Jones $500,000 to be the other half of that horror show DH platoon).
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:31 PM
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they also paid Andruw Jones $500,000 to be the other half of that horror show DH platoon
Jones only played 14 games at DH in 2010. He only started at DH 10 times.

Here's the breakdown, per baseball-reference:

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Kotsay      - 46
Konerko     - 23
Quentin     - 23
Ramirez     - 21
Teahen      - 10
Pierre      - 10
Jones       - 10
Viciedo     -  4
Rios        -  2
Lillibridge -  2
It wasn't a platoon, it was a committee.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:44 PM
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Why do people continue to act like it was a Kotsay vs Thome decision? It was a Kotsay vs the TONS of cash they would have had to overpay Thome to bring him back decision.
If I remember correctly, Thome pretty much begged to come back and was willing to sign with us for about $1 million for 1 year. Money was NOT an issue.

It's bad enough that the Sox turned him down and missed out on his productive 2010 season, but we also in the process handed his bat over to the Twins and he helped them beat us to the division title.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:48 PM
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If I remember correctly, Thome pretty much begged to come back and was willing to sign with us for about $1 million for 1 year. Money was NOT an issue.

It's bad enough that the Sox turned him down and missed out on his productive 2010 season, but we also in the process handed his bat over to the Twins and he helped them beat us to the division title.
The worst part of all of it was how they strung him along the weekend of Soxfest, hinting at the media that they were seriously entertaining the thought of bringing him back, to put on a nice face for the fans, and then turned and gave him the cold shoulder immediately afterwards.

This was also about the same time Ozzie and his kids turned the Sox into the "Ozzie Guillen Show." Great memories.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:41 PM
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Wasn't the deal that if they had kept him around and then resigned him they wouldn't have been able to resign him for that cheap?

I had honestly forgotten they had traded him to LA when I made my first statement.
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:29 PM
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Wasn't the deal that if they had kept him around and then resigned him they wouldn't have been able to resign him for that cheap?
I think that was the situation with Frank Thomas after 2005.
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Old 09-29-2013, 07:48 PM
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Kotsay is (was) still in baseball? That implies someone actually thought he had some talent. At least it indicates that there are some really incompetent GM's and front office people around.
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