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Old 09-15-2013, 02:07 AM
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Default Helton calling it quits

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
Great career, Todd. You'll always be the definitive Rockie.
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Old 09-15-2013, 10:30 AM
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Not sure if his numbers are quite good enough to get him into the Hall (2500 hits, 367 HR, 1400 RBI, .317 avg, .415 OBP).

Most people probably don't know that he was the SEC Male Athlete of the Year in 1995 and was the guy whose knee injury as the starting QB at Tennessee in 1994 led to some guy named Manning becoming the starter for the Vols.
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:41 AM
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Not sure if his numbers are quite good enough to get him into the Hall (2500 hits, 367 HR, 1400 RBI, .317 avg, .415 OBP).

Most people probably don't know that he was the SEC Male Athlete of the Year in 1995 and was the guy whose knee injury as the starting QB at Tennessee in 1994 led to some guy named Manning becoming the starter for the Vols.
Good call, I was actually at that game. Helton made a wise choice going with baseball. Vols' original QB that year, Jerry Colquitt, tore up his knee in the first quarter of the season. When Helton tweaked his -- and saw Manning play in his place -- the choice must have been easier.

Helton also grew up in Knoxville and played at Central High. Few things can make you feel older than watching someone's entire sports career from start to finish.
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Old 09-15-2013, 04:33 PM
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Not sure if his numbers are quite good enough to get him into the Hall (2500 hits, 367 HR, 1400 RBI, .317 avg, .415 OBP).
I'd think those numbers would work if it weren't for the mile high factor. His home/road splits are drastic. .345/.442/.607 vs .287/.386/.470. I'd hope voters would take into account the inflation to his numbers and leave him out. Not that it really matters whether he gets in or not anyway.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:09 PM
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I'd think those numbers would work if it weren't for the mile high factor. His home/road splits are drastic. .345/.442/.607 vs .287/.386/.470. I'd hope voters would take into account the inflation to his numbers and leave him out. Not that it really matters whether he gets in or not anyway.
I really hate the guy that much as well.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:09 AM
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I really hate the guy that much as well.
Just saying. Take out the Colorado effect, and he's looking up at Harold Baines.
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:10 AM
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I'd think those numbers would work if it weren't for the mile high factor. His home/road splits are drastic. .345/.442/.607 vs .287/.386/.470. I'd hope voters would take into account the inflation to his numbers and leave him out. Not that it really matters whether he gets in or not anyway.
I don't buy the spilt argument. Take into consideration that almost every player is going to have fewer impressive numbers on the road, and then take into account that his road splits aren't particularly bad. Examining his tenure in Colorado in such a way trivializes his longevity and consistency that would have been easily transposed elsewhere.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:17 PM
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17 season career all with one team. You don't see that much anymore.
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Old 09-16-2013, 04:55 PM
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Here's a fun exercise. Put Harold Baines into a 2004 Rockies environment (about the middle of Helton's career) on B-Ref's Neutralized Batting page. He comes out with 3322 hits and a career .313 batting average.
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